Wednesday, 14 August 2019

three words Gospel of Thomas Saying 13




(13) Jesus said to his disciples, "Compare me to something and tell me what I resemble." Simon Peter said to him, "A just angel is what you resemble." Matthew said to him, "An intelligent philosopher is what you resemble." Thomas said to him, "Teacher, my mouth utterly will not let me say what you resemble." Jesus said, "I am not your (sing.) teacher, for you have drunk and become intoxicated from the bubbling wellspring that I have personally measured out. And he took him, withdrew, and said three words to him. Now, when Thomas came to his companions they asked him, "What did Jesus say to you?" Thomas said to them, "If I say to you (plur.) one of the sayings that he said to me, you will take stones and stone me, and fire will come out of the stones and burn you up."

Jesus is compared to a righteous messenger or a sage a wise teacher but Thomas must have being confused about who Jesus is, was he son of man or son of God or maybe even both so Thomas could not answer the question add more. Jesus approves Thomas because he knows our hearts and our minds he knew what Thomas knew about him Thomas had being listing to Jesus’ words and understood them that it is his words, which are a fountain of wisdom. Even more than that, this Saying show that Jesus and Thomas are no longer in a teacher-student relationship but that they have become equivalent to each other. Both are sons of the living Father. 

"Thomas" (The Aramaic: Tau'ma) mean "Twin" and may be a title rather than a name. Some scholars speculate that he is called the "twin" of Jesus to denote a spiritual unity between the disciple and his master, as referenced here in Thomas v. 13, where Jesus says, "I am not your teacher. Because you have drank and become drunk from the very same spring from which I draw."

Now, in the GTh, the Lord Jesus comes to reveal that you and he are, twins. And what you discover as you read the GTh, which you are meant to discover, is that you and Jesus at a deep level are identical twins. And that you discover that you are the child of God just as he is. And so that at the end of the gospel Jesus speaks to Thomas and says, "Whoever drinks from my mouth will become as I am, and I will become that person, and the mysteries will be revealed to him." So it becomes clear that our goal is to be like Jesus that is to become his twin. And this is what Thomas means twin, for Thomas symbolizes the one who has become like Jesus Cp. Saying 108 we must become the twin brothers of Christ, who are the solitary or the single one the few chosen out of the many called. The [twin] brethren in Christ Col 1:2.

“Three words” we are not told what these words or sayings are but I believe that the three words are Ehyah, Asheh, Ehyah, I will be who I will be, this could be the three words that Jesus may have said to Thomas. Ehyah is the root word that makes up the name of God Yahweh, meaning He who will be, and Jesus’ name in Hebrew is Yahoshua He who will be salvation, so Jesus has the name of the Father has Paul says “Phi 2:9 Wherefore also God highly exalted him, and gave unto him the name which is above every name;” the exalted name or divine name Yahweh He will be, the Lord was in fact God manifested that is Yahweh manifested in the flesh of Jesus making him the Christ or the Anointed One by being given the spirit with out measure. After Jesus had risen from the dead He became God manifested in spirit. In the days of his flesh he was the reflection of the moral attributes of the Deity. But after his resurrection from the dead he was made consubstantial with the Deity, this makes Jesus the Alpha the first born from the dead, and when he returns the true believers will be the Omega Yahweh Elohim: He who will be (revealed in a group of ) Mighty ones by the spirit of El. It is not One God in 3 gods and 3 gods in One but one Deity in a countless multitude, One Deity one in many, and many in one by his spirit. This is the multitudinous manifestation of the one Deity. 
The 3 words could also be about faith, hope, love, or it could also be what Jesus says in Saying 14 

13) Jesus said to His disciples, "Compare me to someone and tell Me whom I am like." Simon Peter [Christianity] said to Him, "You are like a righteous angel." [miracle worker, luminous being] Matthew [Levi or Jews] said to Him, "You are like a wise philosopher [hence they called Him "Rabbi" or "Master"]." Thomas [the Elect] said to Him, "Master, my mouth is wholly incapable of saying whom You are like." Jesus said, "I am not your master. Because you have drunk [from His mouth - see V.108], you have become intoxicated by the bubbling spring [life giving Word of God] which I have measured out [in precise terminology that Thomas could not speak]." And He took him and withdrew and told him three words [three Hebrew words ehyeh asher ehyeh” when one becomes "as our Master" (a fountain of life giving words) for He is "the author of and finisher of our faith" - this is what the toil and labor is all about]. When Thomas returned to his companions [the Christians and Jews alike], they asked him, "What did Jesus say to you?" Thomas said to them, "If I tell you one of the things [about this final testament which is the unleavened truth in the Word which bubbles up from one who is a son of God (has been converted)] which he told me, you will pick up stones and throw them at me [use the Old and New Testaments against me (just as the Pharisees tried to use the Law against Jesus and in fact would physically stone anyone for "making themselves equal with God" because of their errant thoughts]; a fire [judgment] will come out of the stones [the two testaments] and burn you up." 

Tuesday, 13 August 2019

Valentinus' Vision of the Word


I saw a newborn child, and questioned it to find out who it was. And the child answered me saying, "I am the Word


Fragments From Lost Writings of Valentinus from: Bentley Layton, The Gnostic Scriptures (Doubleday, 1987), pp. 223-49.


This saying from Valentinus reminds me of the saying from the Gospel of Thomas

Saying 4 Jesus said, "A person advanced in days will not hesitate to question a little child seven days old about the place of life. And that person will live. For many that are first will be last, and they will become one."

22) Jesus saw some little ones nursing. He said to his disciples, "These little ones who are nursing resemble is those who enter the kingdom."


The Gospel of Philip Jesus Tricked Everyone

Jesus tricked everyone, for he did not appear as he was, but he appeared so that he could be seen. He appeared to everyone. He [appeared] to the great as great, he [appeared] to the small as small, he [appeared [58] to the] angels as an angel and to humans as a human. For this reason his word was hidden from everyone. Some looked at him and thought they saw themselves. But when he appeared to his disciples in glory upon the mountain, he was not small. He became great. Or rather, he made the disciples great, so they could see him in his greatness.

The Tripartite Tractate: 

Rather, he exists by himself. As for the parts in which he exists in his own manner and form and greatness, it is possible for <them> to see him and speak about that which they know of him, since they wear him while he wears them, because it is possible for them to comprehend him. He, however, is as he is, incomparable. In order that the Father might receive honor from each one and reveal himself, even in his ineffability, hidden, and invisible, they marvel at him mentally. Therefore, the greatness of his loftiness consists in the fact that they speak about him and see him. He becomes manifest, so that he may be hymned because of the abundance of his sweetness, with the grace of <...>. And just as the admirations of the silences are eternal generations and they are mental offspring, so too the dispositions of the word are spiritual emanations. Both of them admirations and dispositions, since they belong to a word, are seeds and thoughts of his offspring, and roots which live forever, appearing to be offspring which have come forth from themselves, being minds and spiritual offspring to the glory of the Father.

Friday, 9 August 2019

The New Covenant

The New Covenant

And in our hearts, we were united. We agreed to fulfill the ministry to which the Lord appointed us. And we made a covenant with each other. (The Nag Hammadi Library The Acts of Peter and the Twelve Apostles)

As the Savior was sitting in the temple in the three hundredth (year) of the covenant and the agreement of the tenth pillar, and being satisfied with the number of the living, incorruptible Majesty, he said to me, "Peter, blessed are those above belonging to the Father, who revealed life to those who are from the life, through me, since I reminded they who are built on what is strong, that they may hear my word, and distinguish words of unrighteousness and transgression of law from righteousness, as being from the height of every word of this Pleroma of truth, having been enlightened in good pleasure by him whom the principalities sought. But they did not find him, nor was he mentioned among any generation of the prophets (The Nag Hammadi Library The Apocalypse of Peter)


So we can see from the two text quoted above that the Gnostic Christians used the word Covenant which is a Jewish-Christian concept

First what does covenant mean?




Covenant means an agreement or contract between two or more parties. "My covenant shall stand fast with him" (Psalms 89:28).

Gen 17:10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.

Jer 31:31 (38:31) {1 } Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Juda: {1) Heb 8:8, 13 }

Jer 31:32 (38:32) not according to the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day when I took hold of their hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; for they abode not in my covenant, and I disregarded them, saith the Lord.

Jer 31:33 (38:33) For this is my covenant which I will make with the house of Israel; after those days, saith the Lord, {1 } I will surely put my laws into their mind, and write them on their hearts; and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people. {1) Gr. giving I will give }

The Gospel of Thomas Saying 53  His disciples asked him: "Is circumcision useful or not?" He replied: "If it were useful then they would be born already circumcised. On the other hand, true circumcision in the spirit is entirely beneficial.'

The Law covenant and the covenant of circumcision are useless

The new covenant of the Bible represents the principles or rules by which men are able to gain their true spiritual heritage and possess the riches of the kingdom of God.

The New covenant is not new it was from the beginning (BeReiShIT) Gen. 1:1) it is the covenant of fire (BRIT AiSh)

[The letters of the Hebrew word] BeReiShIT [meaning "In the beginning" (Gen. 1:1)] can be rearranged to form the words BRIT AiSh [meaning "covenant of fire"], the sign upon which both the higher and lower worlds exist

Jer 33:25 Thus, saith Yahweh, If, my covenant of day and night, the ordinances of the heavens and the earth, I did not appoint,

Therefore concerning creation it is written, "These are the products of the heaven and the earth when they were created (in Hebrew, BHaBaRAM)". (Gen. 2:4) The word "BHaBaRAM" has the identical letters as "B'ABRaHaM", meaning "with Abraham",

The new covenant is made operative by the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.


covenant, new--Jesus established a new and higher consciousness for man and taught and practiced the truth of the inner kingdom. This teaching is known as the "new covenant" (Heb. 12:24). The new covenant is to be written in the heart of each person.

In what way did Jesus Christ become the “mediator of a new covenant”? Jesus proved anew that, by loving the things of spiritual significance and seeking to express them, man enters into a vital relation with God and finds the satisfaction that is “life indeed.” This bringing of life and immortality to light gave men a new understanding of God and led them to enter into a new relation with him.


The new covenant is man’s exact agreement with the inner law of Spirit, as contrasted with the outer chaotic movement of the mind. When man’s thought begins to function from the inner light of Christ mind, his consciousness is related directly to God, and he comes under a new and higher activity of the mind and the body. In the Scripture this is called the “grace and truth” which came through Jesus Christ.


A paraphrase of the Gospel of Philip

A Master takes a disciple and helps him become another master like himself, but a disciple cannot make disciples of others. A Master maintains his power while extending it to others, but a disciple's efforts are all centered in maintaining and increasing his own power.

2. A slave centers all his desires in attaining freedom; the idea of inheriting his master's possessions when he dies never enters his mind. A child, on the other hand, expects to inherit his parents' property when they die. When you enter the Covenant, your awareness expands; you realize that you are slaves. You cannot hope, at that time, to inherit the possessions of the Ascended Masters, but you do yearn for freedom from the powers of darkness, and the Ascended Masters make you their freemen, so that the dark lords can no longer control you. If you continue to grow in the Covenant, you will become the Friends of the Ascended Masters, and eventually you can even become their children, with all the rights of their heirs in the Covenant.

3. Those who inherit from their mortal parents are as dead as they are. If there is no life in the parents, how can there be life in the children? Those who inherit from the Living Parents are alive, for they inherit Life, and everything belongs to them; spiritual things and physical things are all theirs because they are the heirs of the Creators of all things. It is true that we are all mortal, that we were all born dead, but if we are born again and grow up in principles of Truth, we will become alive through inheriting everything that our Divine Parents can give us. They will ascend to a higher sphere of existence, and we will inherit that sphere which they have occupied.

4. Anyone who has not entered the Covenant cannot die, for that person has never lived. When we perceive Truth, that is the moment we become alive. We call this rebirth, but it is truly just birth, for physical birth is a birth into death, but this birth is a birth into Life. When we have been born of water and the Spirit, we are in danger of dying, for then we really are alive. It is then that we must be careful to avoid the missiles of the dark lords, for they are the enemies of those who truly live. Before we discovered gnosis, we were orphans, for we did not know our Parents, but when we enter the Covenant, we have a Father and Mother; we discover our True Parents through the ministry of the Firstborn.

Thursday, 8 August 2019

The Artificial Insemination of Mary with David's seed

The Artificial insemination of Mary





Ebionites denied Jesus' pre-existence, there was a sub-group which did not deny the virgin birth

(Artificial insemination of the natural 1000-year-old seed, miraculously preserved, by the Power of the Most High???)


Romans 1:3 - “Concerning his son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the FLESH.”


John 3:6 - “That which is born of the flesh is FLESH.”


Matthew 19:26 - “But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, with man this is not possible, but with God all things are possible.”


2 Samuel 7:12-13 - “12 “When your [that is David's] days are fulfilled and you rest with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who will come from your body, and I will establish his kingdom. 13 He shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever.”


1 Kings 8:19 - “Thy [David’s] son that shall come forth out of thy loins, he shall build the house unto my name.”


Psalm 132:11 - “The Lord hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; of the fruit of THY body will I set upon thy throne.”


John 7:42 - “Hath not the scriptures said, that Christ cometh of the seed of David?”


Acts 2:30 - “Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the FLESH, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne.”


Acts 13:23 - “Of this man’s [David’s] seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus.”


Revelation 22:16 - “I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the OFFSPRING of David, and the bright and morning star.”



Some said, "Mary conceived by the Holy Spirit." They are in error. They do not know what they are saying. When did a woman ever conceive by a woman? Mary is the virgin whom no power defiled.... And the Lord would not have said "My Father who is in Heaven" (Mt 16:17), unless he had had another father, but he would have said simply "My father". The Gospel of Philip



But remember this: The unbroken of lineage is reckoned through the seed of the father (male). The lineage of Jesus in Matthew and Luke give Mary and her husband, Joseph, as descendants of David. But Joseph was not the natural father of Jesus.


Now, "That which is born of the FLESH is FLESH; and that which is born of the SPIRIT is SPIRIT" (John 3:6). This indicates that FLESH does not bring forth SPIRIT, nor does SPIRIT bring forth FLESH. Therefore, the seed that was planted in Mary, by the power of the Holy Spirit was a natural seed and not a spiritual seed. Whose natural seed did the Holy Spirit use? It plainly tells us it was the SEED OF DAVID, in the following testimonies:


2 Sam. 7:12-13 and I.. Chron. 17:1.1-1.1, quoting from Lesser’s translation:


"When thou [David] sleep with thy fathers I will set up THY SEED ... which shall proceed OUT OF THY BODY ... and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever ... I, TOO, will be to him AS a father and he shall INDEED [by his deeds] be to me AS a son."


Gabriel's statement to Mary about Jesus' FATHER: Luke 1:32 - "...he [Jesus] shall be CALLED (not born] the son of the Highest ... and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of HIS FATHER DAVID."


Jesus was David’s NATURAL son (not a remote descendant). "This is the Lord's doing, it is marvellous in our eyes" (Psa. 118:23). Since Jesus was not a descendant of David through the normal. MALE channel, then the NATURAL seed of David, OUT OF HIS LOINS, had to be miraculously preserved to be FERTILE and had to be ARTIFICIALLY implanted in Mary, since David had been DUST for 1000 years.


Luke's record of the birth of Jesus discloses that:


1. He was actually born of FLESH - the son of man, i. e., the son of David.

2. He was born the son of God, that is he would become the son of God INDEED, or by behaviour.
3. He was born the Saviour of the world.
4. He was born the King of the Jews.

It was necessary for Jesus to first QUALIFY for the last three TITLES, ordained of God, by a perfect obedience in the FLESH.


He qualified as the son of God at his baptism and resurrection.

He qualified as the saviour of the world at his crucifixion.
He qualified as the eternal King at his resurrection.

fire upon the world Gospel of Thomas Saying 10




Gospel of Thomas Saying 10 Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world, and see, I am watching over it until it blazes."

In saying 16 Jesus does not bring peace upon the world but fire war and the sword so in saying 10 Jesus is speaking about the trouble in his day and that of 70 CE and also in our own time

In Saying 82 fire and the kingdom are equivalent terms just as Jesus is equivalent with the Kingdom so here when he throws fire upon the world we should understand that he has come to reveal the knowledge of the Kingdom upon the world. 

This is a refiner’s fire, to refine the heart of men for the day of judgement. The knowledge that makes us responsible to the truth comes by faith and faith by hearing and hearing by the word of God. Thus it can make us wise unto salvation by faith in Christ Jesus, for the word of God is beneficial for teaching, for reproving for correction, for disciplining in righteousness. This is the fire of the knowledge of the kingdom of God that saves us 1Cor 3:13-15 for our faith is tried with fire 1pe 1:7vso the forgiveness of sins is to purify the sins of the world with fire. 

The fire is also the fire of judgment 

Therefore, after we are refined we shall be made like fire just like Jesus is now for Yahweh makes his ministers a flame of fire (God manifestation). (Cp. Saying 82) So by listening to Jesus’ words and abide by them we will overcome our passions. Cp. Saying 7, 8, 9

10)# Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world [by showing us the Way, the Truth and the Life which is the fire that sears our individual spirit consciousness (soul) when we are doing anything that we know to be in opposition to the will of the Father - this fire is our inward trial and judgment], and see, I am guarding it until it blazes [for it will either refine (the Elect) or burn up (as chaff) the faithless]." 

Good Soil Gospel of Thomas Saying 9

Gospel of Thomas Saying 9 Jesus said, "Listen, a sower came forth, took a handful, and cast. Now, some fell upon the path, and the birds came and picked them out. Others fell upon rock, and they did not take root in the soil, and did not send up ears. And others fell upon the thorns, and they choked the seed; and the grubs devoured them. And others fell upon good soil, and it sent up good crops and yielded sixty per measure and a hundred and twenty per measure.

The comparison of this spoken word of God to seed is a very happy comparison. Viewing the mind of man as soil, there is a strict analogy between the one and the other. Just as soil—the very best—has no power to yield garden flowers without seed or its equivalent, so the human brain has no power to evolve knowledge or wisdom without the impartation of ideas from without. Ideas are not innate in the human mind. The mind of a new-born babe is an absolute blank: and the mind of a grown man would be the same, if from his babyhood he were kept away from all contact with idea-acquiring agencies and sources. The kind of ideas he forms depends upon the class of ideas implanted by these external agencies. His mind will develop according to the influences acting upon it from without.

The phrase: ”bore sixty per measure and a hundred and twenty per measure." this may refer to each of the twelve disciples receiving FIVE measures, five is the number of Grace  12 x 5 = 60
If they each doubled what they were given, as in the parable of the “talents” in Matthew 25:14-29, that would be TEN measures each. 12 x 10 = 120

 Jesus said, "Now the sower [anyone who is truly commissioned to sow the word] went out, took a handful (of seeds) [the Words of life], and scattered them [again He "enlightens every man that comes into the world"]. Some fell on the road [the broad way - the Judean\Christo-pagan systems of worship who are full of believers but none with sufficient faith to obey and keep the Word]; the birds [sinful minded religious leaders (Pharisees and Scribes who followed Mosaic/Talmudic Law back then and still do today through the Triple Crown Power) whose road leads to death (the whole world follows after this beast now)] came and gathered them up [they cleverly hid the Keys of Knowledge and the hidden Word from people everywhere by imprisoning and killing anyone who spoke of it (they kept the scrolls and the Keys to themselves allowing no laity access to them]. Others fell on the rock [those who gleefully received the Word but with hardened hearts], did not take root in the soil [having a lack of moisture (faith in the Word) these yearned for the "traditions" of their forefathers and were not able to endure the obedience test], and did not produce ears [first-fruit - sons of the Kingdom who carry the seeds of life within them]. And others fell on thorns [those who although believing, are already established in their worldly ways]; they choked the seed(s) ["quenched the spirit" (of the Word) due to their lusting after the world and its riches] and worms ate them [serpentine (errant) thoughts made them into food for their belly that they might use the Word for their own benefit]. And others fell on the good soil [those of a pure heart full of moisture (faith)] and produced good fruit [spiritual food and more faithful believers]: it bore sixty per measure and a hundred and twenty per measure."

lion becomes a man Gospel of Thomas Saying 7




Jesus says: "Blessed is the lion which a man eats so that the lion becomes a man. But cursed is the man whom a lion eats so that the man becomes a lion!"

Jesus is the lion of Judea (#Ge 49:9,10 Nu 24:9 Heb 7:14 Rev 5:5) The lion was often the symbol of royalty. Thus, the lion is a symbol of the King. And here are the symbolism of that which is good and desirable characteristic or quality: Majesty, courage, destructiveness to enemies symbolism Justice, attribute of “living creature” near the throne (Re 4:7) Jesus as royal majesty, King, executor of justice (Ge 49:9; Re 5:5) Yahweh (Isa 31:4; Ho 11:10) Israel (Mic 5:8)


Eating: From other sayings in Thomas, we may infer that the lion can be eaten only if it is killed and becomes a corpse compare Saying 11, 60. The lord Jesus tells us to eat his flesh. Thus his follower can only do this after his death

Thus “the lion will become man.” after Christ being formed within you after eating the meat of the word the lion (the king) will become a (new) man (in you) I must ask whether the conclusion of this logion ought not to read: [‘and the man will become lion’]. Anyway, they both make sense with this meaning

The Lion also represents the savage thoughts that arise within us
The lion was also used to symbolize human passions. Wicked men (e.g., Psa. 22:12, 13; 57:4; Prov. 28:15 1Pe 5:8).

As I have said above the lion can be eaten only if it is killed and becomes a corpse or the lion can only eat or devour the man if he is dead compare Saying 11, 60 For the lion to devour you first you must be dead that is spiritually dead.  eat or devour One's character, property, life, etc. See Mat 23:14; Hab 1:13; Psa 37:12

The lion will become a man this speaks of ignorance and evil taking over a man and turning a man into something less than a man. Therefore, we need to control our passions in order to transform us in to the image of Christ who is now the true image of God. 


7) Jesus said, "Blessed is the lion [the individual spirit consciousness who has been moved by the "spirit of the world" (sin 1Jo 2:16 ) exhibiting carnal (fleshly) nature] which becomes man [becomes enlightened by the "spirit of truth" one of the "Elect "] when consumed by man [when the spirit of truth in man gets mastery over the flesh and the world i.e. "kills the old man" i.e. devours the lion (beast) within]; and cursed is the man ["one who once tasted the free gifts of the spirit" (enlightenment)] whom the lion consumes [sin once again gets mastery over this one], and the lion becomes man [created in his own image i.e. the spirit of "anti-Christ" - "who went out from among us" (the Elect)]." 

Do Not Do What You Hate Gospel of Thomas Saying 6

Gospel of Thomas saying 6  [His disciples] questioned him [and said], "How [shall we] fast? [How shall we pray]? How [shall we give alms]? What [diet] shall [we] observe?" Jesus said, "[Do not tell lies, and] do not do what you [hate, for all things are plain in the sight] of truth. [For nothing] hidden [will not become manifest]."

Like all devout Jews, the disciples knew their religion, but Jesus knew the Truth. They were focused on following rules and laws, but Jesus simply followed God. They had been taught what was right and proper, but Jesus knew in his spirit what was holy and perfect. Jesus gave them a basic lesson for any interested in finding the Truth. Do not lie! He also adds that we should not do what we hate.

true fasting is abstinence from evil words and actions, not from indifferent things like food Sayings 14, 27, 104

It is apparent from Jesus’s answers that He was making it a point to inform us that the questions asked of Him were born of the flesh and not of the spirit.  Everything we do is in plain sight of Heaven and since heaven is both inside and outside, our acts will be exposed not only to ourselves but others.  Most people think that no one sees them in their little lies, their silly justifications and their (in their mind) covert actions but the reality is that they are always discovered by a son of the Most High no matter how hard they try to cover them.

6)# His disciples questioned Him and said to Him, "Do you want us to fast? How shall we pray? Shall we give alms? What diet shall we observe?" [all of these questions demonstrate a lack of understanding at the time by the disciples] Jesus said, "Do not tell lies [do not try to cover up (justify) your sins], and do not do what you hate [for this is the epitome of hypocrisy - we should "do unto others as we would have done unto us"], for all things are plain in the sight [spiritual eyes] of Heaven [those who have these eyes]. For nothing hidden [in the hearts of man or in the scriptures] will not become manifest [to those who "have eyes to see" and ears to "hear what the spirit is saying"], and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered [One with two eyes and two ears is able to discern both the lower/outward (fleshly) forms and the higher/inward (spiritual) substance of the Word for these have discovered these "keys of Knowledge" and are able to "uncover" the hidden things in man and in the Word]."

Wednesday, 7 August 2019

Adam in the Gospel of Thomas

Adam in the Gospel of Thomas



The Gospel of Thomas Saying (46) Jesus said, "Among those born of women, from Adam until John the Baptist, there is no one so superior to John the Baptist that his eyes should not be lowered (before him). Yet I have said, whichever one of you comes to be a child will be acquainted with the kingdom and will become superior to John."

The Gospel of Thomas Saying Saying (85) Jesus said, "Adam came into being from a great power and a great wealth, but he did not become worthy of you. For had he been worthy, he would not have experienced death."

There are Numerous commentaries on the gospel of Thomas which assume that it is teaching that we have to regain our primordial image which Adam lost.

However the Gospel of Thomas does not speak positively about Adam (Sayings 46, 85) nor does the Gth say any thing about us becoming like Adam was before the fall we are to become greater than Adam was we are to become like Christ (Sayings 13, 61 108)

Some commentaries use many saying from the Gth to prove that we have to regain our primordial image however I am not going to look into these sayings only the ones that clearly speak about Adam

Saying 46. Jesus said, "From Adam to John the Baptist, among those born of women, no one is so much greater than John the Baptist. But for fear that the eyes of such a one should be lost I have said: He who among you shall be the smallest shall know the Kingdom will become greater than John!"

Adam was born through the spirit of the Deity and mother earth thus he is born from below or born of a woman (mother earth).

Here Jesus is not speaking very highly of Adam but of John, it is John the Baptist, here who is the greatest not Adam. To know the Kingdom is find your real self the son of Man inside you

Col 1:27  To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

Saying 85. Jesus said, "Adam came from great power and great wealth, but he was not worthy of you. For had he been worthy, [he would] not [have tasted] death."

One commentary has mistakenly said this passage is referring recovering our primordial image which Adam. Yet, this passage is clearly speaking of a MAN that fell from grace "but he was not worthy of you". Adam was certainly one who fell from grace. He was the Son of God, yet his fateful decision shook the earth and brought humanity down to the grave. (Sheol, pit, hell, Hades).

“Adam came from great power and great wealth“. the great power and the great wealth is the Spirit of God: Heb "ruach Elohim": "The spirit (wealth) of the Powers". "Spirit" = the "wisdom" of Pro 8:22-26. Was Hovering: "Moved" (AV). Like a mother bird brooding over her young: Deu 32:11 (cp Exo 19:4 the Spirit is described as a dove in Matt. 3:16).
Powers said (The Elohim), "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the living creatures." Gen 1:26,27 So Powers (the Elohim) created man in His image; male and female created He them.

“and he did not become worthy of you. For, had he been worthy he would not have tasted death."

Adam was found unworthy! Paul makes a comparison between the first and the second Adam.  (Rom 5:12-15,17,19; [cp. Job 31:33; Pr 28:13; Ho 6:7;] 1 Cor 15:21-22, 42-50; 1Ti 2:14 ): in contrast to Adam, whose sin led to death, stands Jesus, whose obedience leads to life. The outcome of Adam‘s sin, according to saying 85:2, was death; the effect of those who find the meaning of Jesus' words will be not to taste death, according to Saying 1 The phrase 'not taste death' is a favourite of in the gospel of Thomas (Saying 1; 18:3; 19:4; 111:2), although it was also known to the Gospel of John (8:51-52)."

108. Jesus said, "Whoever drinks from my mouth will become like me; I myself shall become that person, and the hidden things will be revealed to him."

In this saying and 13 and 61 those who meditate on the words of Jesus are drinking from wisdom’s fountain and become like or equal with Jesus and this saying explicitly states that the true believer who drinks from Jesus‘ mouth becomes Jesus. Drinking is done by means of investigating and finding the symbolic meanings of the parables and proverbs Jesus’ words. As is discussed in Thomas’s introductory saying and in saying 1.

Friday, 2 August 2019

What is the difference between Esoteric Christianity and Exoteric Christianity?

What is the difference between Esoteric Christianity and Exoteric Christianity?

One is hidden knowledge -one is public knowledge for all.

One comes through self study and exploration -the other comes from tradition and instruction by others.

Wednesday, 31 July 2019

Surah 4, the Cross and the The Apocalypse of Peter


The Quran, the Cross and the Nag Hammadi Library

Introduction: The Mystery of the Crucifixion

The crucifixion of Jesus is one of the most significant subjects in Christian and Islamic theology. In traditional Christianity, the crucifixion represents the suffering and death of Jesus Christ, followed by his resurrection. In Islam, however, the Quran explicitly denies that Jesus was killed or crucified by his enemies, declaring that another was made to resemble him. Between these two positions, certain writings associated with ancient Gnostic Christianity offer alternative interpretations of the crucifixion, distinguishing the visible, suffering body from the living spiritual Christ.

Three important texts illuminate this subject: the Qur'an, particularly Surah 4:157–158; The Second Treatise of the Great Seth; and The Apocalypse of Peter, both preserved in the Nag Hammadi Library. Although these texts emerged from different religious and historical contexts, they share an important point of comparison: the apparent events of the crucifixion do not necessarily reveal the complete spiritual reality of what happened.

The central theme explored here is the distinction between Jesus' physical suffering and the identity of the living Christ. In the Gnostic texts, the authorities believe that they have captured and destroyed the Saviour, yet the spiritual figure remains beyond their understanding. The Qur'an similarly rejects the claim that Jesus' enemies successfully killed him, stating that the event appeared differently to those who witnessed or interpreted it.

These parallels invite a comparative examination of the cross, spiritual identity, ignorance, revelation, and the limitations of human perception.

1. The Second Treatise of the Great Seth

The Second Treatise of the Great Seth is a text associated with the Gnostic Christian tradition. It presents a distinctive account of Jesus' relationship to the crucifixion, emphasising the inability of worldly rulers to comprehend his true spiritual identity.

The text portrays Jesus as speaking from a position of spiritual superiority over those who believe that they have defeated him. Their understanding is limited to appearances, while the true Saviour remains beyond their reach.

The following passage presents this perspective:

For my death, which they think happened, happened to them in their error and blindness, since they nailed their man unto their death. Their thoughts did not see me, for they were deaf and blind. But in doing these things, they condemn themselves. Yes, they saw me; they punished me. It was another, their father, who drank the gall and the vinegar; it was not I. They struck me with the reed; it was another, Simon, who bore the cross on his shoulder. It was another upon whom they placed the crown of thorns. But I was rejoicing in the height over all the wealth of the rulers and the offspring of their error, of their empty glory. And I was laughing at their ignorance.

This passage challenges the assumption that the visible events of the crucifixion provide a complete account of the Saviour's identity.

Jesus declares that the rulers acted in ignorance, believing that they had punished and destroyed him. The statement that they nailed "their man unto their death" presents the crucifixion as an event in which the authorities mistakenly identify the person subjected to suffering with the true spiritual Saviour.

The emphasis falls on blindness and ignorance. The rulers see the physical event but fail to recognise the spiritual reality behind it.

The statement that Jesus was "rejoicing in the height" further separates his spiritual condition from the suffering associated with the cross. While the authorities believe that they have achieved victory, the Saviour remains above their power.

The passage continues:

It was my cross that the world did not accept, my apparent exaltation, my third baptism in a revealed image. When they had fled from the fire of the seven authorities, and the sun of the powers of the rulers set, darkness overtook them. And the world became poor. After they bound him with many restraints, they nailed him to the cross, and they fastened him with four nails of brass. The veil of his temple he tore with his hands. There was a trembling that overcame the chaos of the earth, for the souls that were in the sleep below were released, and they arose. They walked about boldly, having shed jealousy of ignorance and unlearnedness beside the dead tombs; having put on the new human; having come to know that perfect blessed one of the eternal and incomprehensible father and the infinite light, which is I. When I came to my own and united them with myself, there was no need for many words, for our thought was with their thought. Therefore they knew what I was saying, for we took counsel about the destruction of the rulers. And therefore I did the will of the father, who is I.

The language of apparent exaltation is particularly significant. The cross is presented not simply as an instrument of physical punishment but as an event whose outward appearance conceals a deeper spiritual meaning.

The passage also associates the crucifixion with liberation from ignorance. The souls who rise from their sleep represent a movement away from spiritual blindness and toward knowledge of the eternal Father and the infinite light.

Within this interpretation, the rulers' apparent victory becomes a demonstration of their own ignorance. They can impose restraints on a physical figure, but they cannot comprehend the spiritual reality that transcends their authority.

Simon of Cyrene and the Question of Substitution

The passage mentions Simon carrying the cross, a detail that invites comparison with the claim attributed to Basilides, an early Christian teacher associated with alternative interpretations of the crucifixion.

According to accounts of Basilidean teaching preserved by later Christian writers, Simon of Cyrene was mistaken for Jesus and crucified in his place, while Jesus escaped.

However, an important distinction must be made: The Second Treatise of the Great Seth does not straightforwardly state that Simon himself was crucified. Its wording identifies Simon as the person who bore the cross on his shoulder, while also distinguishing Jesus from the person subjected to the authorities' violence.

Consequently, the text should not automatically be treated as identical to the version attributed to Basilides.

Its emphasis is broader than the substitution of one named individual for another. It challenges the persecutors' ability to recognise the true Saviour. The physical person whom they punish is associated with their misunderstanding, whereas the spiritual Jesus describes himself as remaining beyond their power.

This distinction is central to the comparison with the Qur'an.

2. The Apocalypse of Peter: The Living Jesus and the Suffering Body

Another important text is The Apocalypse of Peter, preserved in the Nag Hammadi collection. It presents a visionary encounter in which Peter sees a figure being crucified while another figure, described as the living Jesus, stands apart from the suffering body.

Peter is confused by what he sees and asks the Saviour to explain the apparent contradiction.

The text states:

When he had said those things, I saw him seemingly being seized by them. And I said "What do I see, O Lord? That it is you yourself whom they take, and that you are grasping me? Or who is this one, glad and laughing on the tree? And is it another one whose feet and hands they are striking?"

The Saviour responds:

The Savior said to me, "He whom you saw on the tree, glad and laughing, this is the living Jesus. But this one into whose hands and feet they drive the nails is his fleshly part, which is the substitute being put to shame, the one who came into being in his likeness. But look at him and me."

This is one of the clearest expressions in the supplied material of a distinction between the suffering body and the living spiritual Jesus.

Peter sees someone being nailed to the cross, but the Saviour directs his attention to the figure who remains joyful. The apparent contradiction is resolved by distinguishing the fleshly part from the living Jesus.

The text continues:

But I, when I had looked, said "Lord, no one is looking at you. Let us flee this place."

But the Saviour replies:

But he said to me, "I have told you, 'Leave the blind alone!'. And you, see how they do not know what they are saying. For the son of their glory instead of my servant, they have put to shame."

The reference to blindness echoes the language of The Second Treatise of the Great Seth. In both texts, those responsible for the crucifixion fail to understand the spiritual identity of the figure before them.

The persecutors believe that they are humiliating and destroying the Saviour. Yet their actions expose their own ignorance.

The account continues with a vision of the spiritual figure:

And I saw someone about to approach us resembling him, even him who was laughing on the tree. And he was with a Holy Spirit, and he is the Savior. And there was a great, ineffable light around them, and the multitude of ineffable and invisible angels blessing them. And when I looked at him, the one who gives praise was revealed.

The passage then provides a further explanation:

And he said to me, "Be strong, for you are the one to whom these mysteries have been given, to know them through revelation, that he whom they crucified is the first-born, and the home of demons, and the stony vessel in which they dwell, of Elohim, of the cross, which is under the Law. But he who stands near him is the living Savior, the first in him, whom they seized and released, who stands joyfully looking at those who did him violence, while they are divided among themselves. Therefore he laughs at their lack of perception, knowing that they are born blind. So then the one susceptible to suffering shall come, since the body is the substitute. But what they released was my incorporeal body. But I am the intellectual Spirit filled with radiant light. He whom you saw coming to me is our intellectual Pleroma, which unites the perfect light with my Holy Spirit."

This passage introduces several important concepts.

First, it identifies the crucified figure with the fleshly existence associated with the cross and the Law. The text calls this figure a vessel in which spiritual powers dwell, using language that differs considerably from conventional Christian descriptions of Jesus' crucifixion.

Second, it identifies the living Saviour with an incorporeal or intellectual spiritual reality. The living Jesus is not defined by the suffering imposed on the physical figure.

Third, it connects the Saviour with the Pleroma, a term used in Gnostic traditions for spiritual fullness or completeness. Here, the language of perfect light, incorporeal existence, and the Pleroma establishes a sharp contrast between material suffering and spiritual life.

The text concludes this explanation with an instruction concerning the revelation:

"These things, then, which you saw you shall present to those of another race who are not of this age. For there will be no honor in any man who is not immortal, but only (in) those who were chosen from an immortal substance, which has shown that it is able to contain him who gives his abundance. Therefore I said, 'Every one who has, it will be given to him, and he will have plenty.' But he who does not have, that is, the man of this place, who is completely dead, who is removed from the planting of the creation of what is begotten, whom, if one of the immortal essence appears, they think that they possess him - it will be taken from him and be added to the one who is. You, therefore, be courageous and do not fear at all. For I shall be with you in order that none of your enemies may prevail unto you. Peace be to you, Be strong!"

The passage contrasts mortality with an immortal spiritual essence. Its message is that the visible world cannot necessarily comprehend or possess the spiritual reality revealed to those who receive knowledge.

Within this interpretation, the physical suffering of Jesus does not exhaust the meaning of the crucifixion. The living Saviour represents a spiritual identity that the persecutors cannot destroy.

3. Jesus Suffered on the Cross, but Not Christ

The distinction between Jesus' fleshly body and the living Saviour can be expressed through the proposition: Jesus suffered on the cross, but Christ did not suffer in the same way.

This formulation requires careful interpretation.

In The Apocalypse of Peter, the physical figure is subjected to the nails and humiliation, while the living Jesus is described as joyful and spiritually untouched by the violence. The text therefore distinguishes the suffering body from the Saviour's incorporeal identity.

In The Second Treatise of the Great Seth, the speaker likewise denies that the death attributed to him occurred as his persecutors believed. Their actions reveal their ignorance rather than their mastery over the Saviour.

These texts offer interpretations associated with ancient Gnostic Christianity. They should not be treated as a single, uniform Gnostic doctrine, because ancient Gnostic movements differed in their descriptions of Jesus, Christ, embodiment, and salvation.

Nevertheless, the comparison reveals a shared conceptual pattern: the visible person subjected to violence is distinguished from a spiritual reality that cannot be adequately understood through physical appearances alone.

The phrase "Jesus suffered on the cross, but not Christ" summarises this distinction as a theological interpretation rather than an uncontested historical account.

It suggests that the fleshly Jesus belongs to the realm of suffering, while Christ, understood as the living spiritual Saviour, transcends the power of the material rulers.

4. The Qur'an 4:157: They Did Not Kill Him or Crucify Him

The Qur'an presents a different but relevant account of the crucifixion. Surah 4:157 challenges the claim that Jesus' enemies killed him.

One supplied translation reads:

[Quran 4:157] And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)]:

Another translation states:

And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.

The central claim is explicit: Jesus' enemies did not kill him, and they did not crucify him in the sense asserted by their boast.

The verse also refers to a resemblance being made to appear to them. This wording has been interpreted in many Muslim traditions as indicating that another person was made to resemble Jesus and was crucified in his place.

The similarity to substitution interpretations found in some ancient Christian writings is striking. Both approaches challenge the assumption that the person visibly subjected to crucifixion was necessarily Jesus himself.

However, the relationship should not be overstated. The Qur'an does not explicitly identify the substitute as Simon of Cyrene, nor does it reproduce the detailed distinction between the living Jesus and the suffering body found in The Apocalypse of Peter.

The Qur'anic verse instead emphasises the limits of the opponents' knowledge. They make a claim, but the revelation denies the certainty of their conclusion.

The wording about conjecture is particularly important. The dispute is presented as a matter in which appearances and assertions have been mistaken for certain knowledge.

This provides a meaningful point of comparison with the Gnostic texts, where the rulers' blindness prevents them from understanding the spiritual reality of the crucifixion.

5. Abdullah Yusuf Ali's Commentary on Qur'an 4:157

Abdullah Yusuf Ali's commentary discusses the differences between traditional Christian teaching, alternative early Christian interpretations, and the Qur'anic account.

He writes:

663 The end of the life of Jesus on earth is as much involved in mystery as his birth, and indeed the greater part of his private life, except the three main years of his ministry. It is not profitable to discuss the many doubts and conjectures among the early Christian sects and among Muslim theologians.The Orthodox-Christian Churches make it a cardinal point of their doctrine that his life was taken on the Cross, that he died and was buried, that on the third day he rose in the body with his wounds intact, and walked about and conversed, and ate with his disciples, and was afterwards taken up bodily to heaven.

Yusuf Ali continues:

This is necessary for the theological doctrine of blood sacrifice and vicarious atonement for sins, which is rejected by Islam. But some of the early Christian sects did not believe that Christ was killed on the Cross. The Basilidans believed that someone else was substituted for him. The Docetae held that Christ never had a real physical or natural body, but only an apparent or phantom body, and that his Crucifixion was only apparent, not real. The Marcionite Gospel (about A.C. 138) denied that Jesus was born, and merely said that he appeared in human form. The Gospel of St. Barnabas supported the theory of substitution on the Cross. The Qur'anic teaching is that Christ was not crucified nor killed by the Jews, notwithstanding certain apparent circumstances which produced that illusion in the minds of some of his enemies; that disputatious, doubts, and conjectures on such matters are vain; and that he was taken up to Allah (see 4:158 and 3:55).

This commentary places the Qur'anic position within a broader history of disagreement about Jesus' crucifixion.

The reference to Basilideans is particularly relevant because of the tradition that someone other than Jesus was crucified. The reference to Docetism is also important because Docetic interpretations questioned whether Christ possessed an ordinary physical body capable of suffering in the same way as other human beings.

However, these traditions should be distinguished from one another. The substitution account attributed to Basilides is not identical to the Docetic view that Christ's bodily existence was merely apparent. Nor should every Gnostic text be assumed to teach the same doctrine.

The Nag Hammadi writings examined here provide their own distinctive presentations. The Second Treatise of the Great Seth emphasises the rulers' error and the Saviour's transcendence, while The Apocalypse of Peter explicitly distinguishes the suffering fleshly figure from the living Jesus.

Yusuf Ali's commentary therefore supplies a useful framework for understanding why the Qur'anic account has been compared with certain early Christian interpretations.

6. The Qur'an 4:158: Allah Raised Him

The next verse states:

4:158

Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise.

This verse follows the denial that Jesus' enemies killed or crucified him.

In the Qur'anic account, the opponents do not achieve the victory they claim. Instead, the verse declares that Allah raised Jesus to Himself.

Abdullah Yusuf Ali explains:

There is difference of opinion as to the exact interpretation of this verse. The words are: The Jews did not kill Jesus, but Allah raised him up (rafa'ahu) to Himself. One school holds that Jesus did not die the usual human death, but still lives in the body in heaven, which is the generally accepted Muslim view. Another holds that he did die (5:117) but not when he was supposed to be crucified, and that his being "raised up" unto Allah means that instead of being disgraced as a malefactor, as the Jews intended, he was on the contrary honoured by Allah as His Messenger: (see 4:159). The same word rafa'a is used in association with honour in connection with al Mustafa in 94:4. (R)

Yusuf Ali's commentary acknowledges different interpretations of what it means for Jesus to be raised to Allah. The generally accepted Muslim position is that Jesus was not killed in the crucifixion and was raised by Allah. Other interpretations understand the raising in terms of divine honour and deliverance from the intended disgrace.

The wording of the verse does not itself provide a detailed account of a spiritual figure standing beside a crucified body. That imagery belongs to the particular Gnostic writings considered earlier.

Nevertheless, the Qur'an and these writings can be compared around the broader question of whether the apparent victory of Jesus' persecutors represents the complete truth.

In The Apocalypse of Peter, the living Saviour remains beyond the reach of those who inflict suffering on the fleshly figure. In the Qur'an, the enemies' claim that they killed the Messiah is explicitly rejected.

The two accounts should not be collapsed into one doctrine, but their contrast with conventional crucifixion narratives makes the comparison historically and theologically significant.

7. The Cross, the Law, and the Rulers of the World

One of the most distinctive expressions in The Apocalypse of Peter describes the crucified figure as associated with "Elohim" and "the cross, which is under the Law."

This language belongs to the text's particular spiritual framework. It presents the cross and the authorities associated with it in a way that differs from orthodox Christian theology.

The text's description of the living Jesus as an intellectual Spirit filled with radiant light establishes a contrast between the material order and the spiritual fullness represented by the Saviour.

In The Second Treatise of the Great Seth, the rulers are similarly portrayed as operating through ignorance and empty glory. Their power is limited because they cannot recognise the true spiritual identity of the one they seek to destroy.

The Qur'an approaches the issue differently. It does not present the crucifixion through the same Gnostic cosmology of rulers, spiritual substances, and the Pleroma. Instead, it rejects the claim that Jesus' opponents killed him and declares that Allah raised him.

The comparison nevertheless highlights a common question: can human authorities determine the ultimate fate or identity of a figure whose significance is understood to transcend ordinary material power?

For the Gnostic texts, the answer is expressed through the living Saviour's spiritual transcendence. For the Qur'an, the decisive action belongs to Allah, whose power exceeds that of Jesus' enemies.

8. Similarities and Differences Between the Three Texts

The relationship between these sources can be summarised through several major themes.

First, the rejection of the persecutors' claimed victory.

In The Second Treatise of the Great Seth, Jesus declares that his persecutors acted in ignorance and failed to comprehend his true identity. In The Apocalypse of Peter, the living Saviour remains joyful while the fleshly figure suffers. In the Qur'an, the opponents' claim that they killed the Messiah is denied.

Second, the distinction between appearance and spiritual reality.

The Gnostic writings distinguish the visible suffering figure from the living spiritual Saviour. The Qur'an states that the matter appeared differently to Jesus' opponents, referring to a resemblance that caused them to misunderstand what happened.

Third, the limitations of human knowledge.

The Gnostic texts repeatedly refer to blindness and ignorance. Qur'an 4:157 likewise states that those who dispute the matter lack certain knowledge and follow conjecture.

Fourth, the different explanations of Jesus' fate.

The Gnostic texts describe a distinction between the suffering body and the living Saviour. The Qur'an denies that Jesus' enemies killed or crucified him and declares that Allah raised him. These are related questions, but the explanations are not identical.

Fifth, the question of the physical body.

In The Apocalypse of Peter, the suffering figure is described as the fleshly part or substitute, while the living Jesus is identified with incorporeal spiritual existence. The Qur'an does not explicitly formulate this distinction in those terms.

These differences are essential to a responsible comparison. Similar language or theological concerns do not, by themselves, establish that one text directly borrowed from another or that all three traditions held identical beliefs.

Conclusion: The Mystery Behind the Cross

The Qur'an, The Second Treatise of the Great Seth, and The Apocalypse of Peter present different challenges to the assumption that the apparent events surrounding Jesus' death tell the whole story.

In The Second Treatise of the Great Seth, the Saviour declares that his persecutors acted through blindness and ignorance. They believed that they had defeated him, yet their actions failed to reveal or destroy his spiritual identity.

In The Apocalypse of Peter, the distinction becomes more explicit. Peter sees a figure suffering on the cross and another, the living Jesus, standing apart from the suffering. The text presents the physical figure as distinct from the incorporeal Saviour, who remains joyful and beyond the persecutors' understanding.

The Qur'an offers its own decisive statement in Surah 4:157–158: Jesus' enemies did not kill him or crucify him as they claimed, and Allah raised him to Himself. Abdullah Yusuf Ali's commentary situates this interpretation alongside historical Christian disagreements concerning substitution, Docetism, and the nature of Jesus' crucifixion.

The central comparative insight is that the cross can be interpreted in different ways depending on how Jesus' physical existence, spiritual identity, and relationship to divine power are understood.

The formulation "Jesus suffered on the cross, but not Christ" captures the distinction developed in the Gnostic interpretation examined here: the physical figure experiences suffering, while the living spiritual Saviour transcends the violence directed against him.

The Qur'an reaches a related point of contrast by rejecting the claim that Jesus' enemies successfully killed him. Yet its explanation rests on its own revelation and understanding of Allah's power rather than on the detailed cosmology of the Nag Hammadi writings.

Taken together, these texts reveal a significant history of religious disagreement about the crucifixion. They show that the relationship between the visible Jesus and the spiritual Saviour has been interpreted in substantially different ways, and that the meaning of the cross has remained a subject of theological debate.




The Second Treatise of the Great Seth


 For my death, which they think happened, happened to them in their error and blindness, since they nailed their man unto their death.  Their thoughts did not see me, for they were deaf and blind. But in doing these things, they condemn themselves. Yes, they saw me; they punished me. It was another, their father, who drank the gall and the vinegar; it was not I. They struck me with the reed; it was another, Simon, who bore the cross on his shoulder. It was another upon whom they placed the crown of thorns.  But I was rejoicing in the height over all the wealth of the rulers and the offspring of their error, of their empty glory. And I was laughing at their ignorance.

It was my cross that the world did not accept, my apparent exaltation, my third baptism in a revealed image.  When they had fled from the fire of the seven authorities, and the sun of the powers of the rulers set, darkness overtook them. And the world became poor. After they bound him with many restraints, they nailed him to the cross, and they fastened him with four nails of brass.  The veil of his temple he tore with his hands. There was a trembling that overcame the chaos of the earth, for the souls that were in the sleep below were released, and they arose. They walked about boldly, having shed jealousy of ignorance and unlearnedness beside the dead tombs; having put on the new human; having come to know that perfect blessed one of the eternal and incomprehensible father and the infinite light, which is I.  When I came to my own and united them with myself, there was no need for many words, for our thought was with their thought. Therefore they knew what I was saying, for we took counsel about the destruction of the rulers. And therefore I did the will of the father, who is I.



it was The Gnostic teacher Basilides who claimed that Simon of Cyrene was crucified in place of jesus. yet in the The Second Treatise of the Great Seth Simon of Cyrene is never actually crucified and jesus says that it is their man that the world rulers put to death

The Apocalypse of Peter

When he had said those things, I saw him seemingly being seized by them. And I said "What do I see, O Lord? That it is you yourself whom they take, and that you are grasping me? Or who is this one, glad and laughing on the tree? And is it another one whose feet and hands they are striking?"
The Savior said to me, "He whom you saw on the tree, glad and laughing, this is the living Jesus. But this one into whose hands and feet they drive the nails is his fleshly part, which is the substitute being put to shame, the one who came into being in his likeness. But look at him and me."
But I, when I had looked, said "Lord, no one is looking at you. Let us flee this place."

But he said to me, "I have told you, 'Leave the blind alone!'. And you, see how they do not know what they are saying. For the son of their glory instead of my servant, they have put to shame."

And I saw someone about to approach us resembling him, even him who was laughing on the tree. And he was <filled> with a Holy Spirit, and he is the Savior. And there was a great, ineffable light around them, and the multitude of ineffable and invisible angels blessing them. And when I looked at him, the one who gives praise was revealed.

And he said to me, "Be strong, for you are the one to whom these mysteries have been given, to know them through revelation, that he whom they crucified is the first-born, and the home of demons, and the stony vessel in which they dwell, of Elohim, of the cross, which is under the Law. But he who stands near him is the living Savior, the first in him, whom they seized and released, who stands joyfully looking at those who did him violence, while they are divided among themselves. Therefore he laughs at their lack of perception, knowing that they are born blind. So then the one susceptible to suffering shall come, since the body is the substitute. But what they released was my incorporeal body. But I am the intellectual Spirit filled with radiant light. He whom you saw coming to me is our intellectual Pleroma, which unites the perfect light with my Holy Spirit."


"These things, then, which you saw you shall present to those of another race who are not of this age. For there will be no honor in any man who is not immortal, but only (in) those who were chosen from an immortal substance, which has shown that it is able to contain him who gives his abundance. Therefore I said, 'Every one who has, it will be given to him, and he will have plenty.' But he who does not have, that is, the man of this place, who is completely dead, who is removed from the planting of the creation of what is begotten, whom, if one of the immortal essence appears, they think that they possess him - it will be taken from him and be added to the one who is. You, therefore, be courageous and do not fear at all. For I shall be with you in order that none of your enemies may prevail unto you. Peace be to you, Be strong!"


the one  who is above or beside the cross who is smiling and laughing is the living Jesus. and the one actually being crucified is the man of flesh later called man of Elohim man of the cross who is under the law 

the fleshly body of jesus was crucified but the living jesus is an immortal being who  does not suffer and die

Jesus suffered on cross but not Christ



[Quran 4:157] And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)]:

And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.

Abdullah Yusuf Ali 663 The end of the life of Jesus on earth is as much involved in mystery as his birth, and indeed the greater part of his private life, except the three main years of his ministry. It is not profitable to discuss the many doubts and conjectures among the early Christian sects and among Muslim theologians.The Orthodox-Christian Churches make it a cardinal point of their doctrine that his life was taken on the Cross, that he died and was buried, that on the third day he rose in the body with his wounds intact, and walked about and conversed, and ate with his disciples, and was afterwards taken up bodily to heaven. 

This is necessary for the theological doctrine of blood sacrifice and vicarious atonement for sins, which is rejected by Islam. But some of the early Christian sects did not believe that Christ was killed on the Cross. The Basilidans believed that someone else was substituted for him. The Docetae held that Christ never had a real physical or natural body, but only an apparent or phantom body, and that his Crucifixion was only apparent, not real. The Marcionite Gospel (about A.C. 138) denied that Jesus was born, and merely said that he appeared in human form. The Gospel of St. Barnabas supported the theory of substitution on the Cross. The Qur'anic teaching is that Christ was not crucified nor killed by the Jews, notwithstanding certain apparent circumstances which produced that illusion in the minds of some of his enemies; that disputatious, doubts, and conjectures on such matters are vain; and that he was taken up to Allah (see 4:158 and 3:55).  

4:158

Rather, Allah raised him to Himself. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise.

Abdullah Yusuf Ali There is difference of opinion as to the exact interpretation of this verse. The words are: The Jews did not kill Jesus, but Allah raised him up (rafa'ahu) to Himself. One school holds that Jesus did not die the usual human death, but still lives in the body in heaven, which is the generally accepted Muslim view. Another holds that he did die (5:117) but not when he was supposed to be crucified, and that his being "raised up" unto Allah means that instead of being disgraced as a malefactor, as the Jews intended, he was on the contrary honoured by Allah as His Messenger: (see 4:159). The same word rafa'a is used in association with honour in connection with al Mustafa in 94:4. (R)