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Monday, 21 July 2025

Cathar’s Teaching on Purgatory

Traditional Gnostic Teaching on Purgatory 






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# Cathar’s Teaching on Purgatory

The doctrine of purgatory has been a central teaching of the Roman Catholic Church for centuries. According to this doctrine, after death, souls of the faithful who have died in a state of grace but still carry venial sin or temporal punishment undergo a purification process in a place called purgatory before entering heaven. The Church teaches that the prayers, masses, and offerings of the living can shorten the duration of this purification. But is this doctrine biblical? And what did the Cathars, a medieval Gnostic sect, believe regarding purgatory?

## The Roman Catholic Teaching on Purgatory

Roman Catholicism teaches a tripartite afterlife: heaven, purgatory, and hell. Souls that die in mortal sin face eternal damnation in hell, while the righteous, if not perfectly purified, go to purgatory—a temporary state of cleansing. This belief is used to justify practices like masses for the dead, indulgences, and prayers intended to relieve souls from purgatory.

However, the term *purgatory* does not appear in the Bible or the Nag Hammadi texts, the latter being a collection of early Gnostic writings. The concept of purgatory arose later in Church history and is not explicitly supported by Scripture.

## The Cathars and Their Rejection of Purgatory

The Cathars (or Albigenses), flourishing in the 12th and 13th centuries primarily in southern France, were a Gnostic sect who held beliefs starkly opposed to Roman Catholic teachings. They rejected purgatory, the invocation of saints, infant baptism, and the doctrine of transubstantiation.

The Cathars believed in a dualistic worldview, dividing the cosmos into forces of good and evil. They regarded material existence as flawed or evil and sought spiritual purity. They denied that souls undergo any purification after death, thus rejecting purgatory entirely.

Ralph of Coggeshale documented similar beliefs among the Pauliciani and Bogomils—other Gnostic groups sharing Cathar ideas. These sects rejected prayers for the dead and purgatory, emphasizing a direct and simple faith without elaborate rituals.

## Biblical Examination of Purgatory

The doctrine of purgatory lacks direct biblical support. The Scriptures emphasize that salvation and cleansing from sin occur through faith in Christ, baptism, and a life lived in obedience—not through a postmortem purification.

* **Hebrews 9:14** says Christ’s blood “purges your conscience from dead works,” showing cleansing happens in life, not after death.
* **1 Corinthians 5:7** exhorts believers to “purge out therefore the old leaven,” indicating sin’s removal in this present life.
* **2 Corinthians 6:2** states, “Now is the day of salvation,” emphasizing salvation is experienced now, not delayed after death.
* **Matthew 25:31-34** and **Revelation 22:12** depict judgment at Christ’s return, when all righteous receive their reward simultaneously, not at staggered times after death.
* **Hebrews 11:39-40** confirms that the faithful receive their reward collectively after the final judgment, not at various stages after death.

Moreover, the Old Testament uses terms like “Sheol,” often translated as “hell,” but literally meaning “the grave” or “place of the dead” (e.g., Psalms 49:6-9). The idea of a purgatorial state as a separate realm developed later, influenced by non-biblical traditions.

## The Nature of Death and the Afterlife According to Scripture and Cathar Thought

The Cathars believed, in line with certain biblical interpretations, that death results in unconsciousness or “sleep” until the resurrection at Christ’s return. They rejected the idea of souls wandering in an intermediate purgatorial state.

The Catholic notion that souls undergo conscious torment or purification after death is not explicitly supported by the Bible. Instead, Scripture suggests that death is the end of conscious existence until resurrection (Ecclesiastes 9:5; Psalms 146:4).

Furthermore, salvation and sanctification are processes occurring in this life through faith and obedience (Galatians 6:8). Sin is purged by baptism and continual spiritual growth, not by suffering in a purgatory after death.

## The Role of the Priesthood and Masses

Catholic doctrine teaches that priests can assist the dead through masses and prayers, reducing time in purgatory. The Cathars, and later Protestant groups influenced by their ideas, rejected this. They believed that no earthly rituals or offerings could influence the soul’s state after death.

The Bible supports this by declaring:

* **Psalm 49:7-9:** “No one can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him... that he should still live forever.”
* **Hebrews 5:7:** Even Jesus “offered up prayers and supplications... and was heard because of His godly fear,” showing intercession is possible, but not through human manipulations or rituals.

Thus, the Cathar rejection of purgatory and masses for the dead aligns with biblical principles emphasizing personal faith, repentance, and God’s judgment rather than church-administered postmortem interventions.

## Historical Impact and Persecution

The Cathars’ refusal to accept purgatory and other Church doctrines posed a significant threat to Roman Catholic authority. Pope Innocent III issued orders for their suppression, endorsing violent persecution to eliminate their influence. The Albigensian Crusade was a direct result of this opposition.

The Cathars’ challenge to purgatory also influenced Protestant Reformation theology. Like the Cathars, Protestants reject purgatory, prayers for the dead, and indulgences, emphasizing salvation by faith alone and direct access to the Scriptures.

## Conclusion

The Cathars, as a Gnostic sect, firmly rejected the Roman Catholic doctrine of purgatory. Their teaching aligns with biblical texts that place the purification from sin in this present life through faith, baptism, and obedience rather than after death in a special intermediate state. They denied the efficacy of masses or prayers to shorten suffering after death and rejected the hierarchical priestly mediation claimed by the Roman Church.

The biblical witness supports the Cathar view that the righteous are rewarded at the final judgment and that death leads to unconsciousness until the resurrection. The idea of purgatory lacks scriptural foundation and reflects later Church developments rather than apostolic teaching.

In this light, the Cathars’ teachings on purgatory stand as a biblical corrective to the medieval doctrine, encouraging believers to focus on present faithfulness rather than posthumous purging.

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Is there a purgatory ? 
And if so, can the priest by his masses bring the faithful out of it ?''

The Roman Catholic Church teaches that the undying souls of men leave their bodies at death. The wicked (those who die in mortal sin) go to hell for eternal torment. The righteous, dying with unforgiven venial sin or undischarged temporal punishment, go to a painful purification before being fit for heaven.

Purgatory is a half-way house between 'heaven' and 'hell'. The Roman Catholic church teaches that Purgatory is a place of purging, in which the soul will suffer for a while before being fit to gain salvation in heaven. The prayers, candle-burning and financial gifts to the church of a person and his friends is supposed to shorten the length of time that the soul suffers in 'purgatory'.

The word Purgatory is not used in the Bible nor the nag hammadi texts 

Gnostic sects like the Bogomils, Pauliciani, Cathars rejected the doctrine of Purgatory

Ralph of Coggeshale goes into considerable detail of the doctrines of the Pauliciani in Flanders and England, and thereby establishes their complete identity with the Bogomils. They held, he says, to two principles-of good and evil; they rejected purgatory, prayers for the dead, the invocation of saints, infant baptism, and the use of pictures, images, and crucifixes in the churches ;

The Albigenses (also known as Cathari), named after the town of Albi, where they had many followers. They had their own celibate clergy class, who expected to be greeted with reverence. They believed that Jesus spoke figuratively in his last supper when he said of the bread, “This is my body.” (Matthew 26:26, NAB) They rejected the doctrines of the Trinity, the Virgin Birth, hellfire, and purgatory. Thus they actively put in doubt the teachings of Rome. Pope Innocent III gave instructions that the Albigenses be persecuted. “If necessary,” he said, “suppress them with the sword.” 

Protestants, like Cathars, rejected the medieval Roman doctrine of transubstantiation and infant baptism. Like Cathars and Waldensians, Protestant Churches encourage laymen to read the scriptures for themselves. Most accept women as ministers, and most affirm the dignity of labour. Churchmen themselves are increasingly working for a living rather than living off tithes. Protestant theology is that of mitigated dualism, embracing predestination and rejecting the Catholic position on Free Will. Protestants, like Cathars, reject the medieval Roman Catholic notion of Purgatory, along with the practice of praying for the dead, and the entire system of indulgences.

The Jews had originally had no concept of an afterlife, but under Greek influence they had developed an ill-defined belief in an afterlife by the time of Jesus Christ. (The words translated as hell in the Old Testament actually mean grave or rubbish-tip). In the 2nd Century BCE the Jews had 
developed a  belief that there was a afterlife in heaven or hell. Ideas such as Purgatory and Limbo were developed much later. More conservative Jews at the time of Jesus still held ideas of an afterlife to be an offensive novelty. As they pointed out the many punishments promised by God in scripture are all punishments in this world. None is promised for an afterlife.

Man has conceived that there is such a condition as life separate from God, and obedient to man’s thought; he has produced such a state of mind. When man changes his mind he will find that he lives in heaven continually, but by the power of his thought has made all kinds of places: earth, purgatory, heaven, hell and numerous intermediate states

The righteous are never promised salvation in heaven. The granting of salvation will be at the judgment seat at Christ's return, rather than at some time after death when we supposedly leave 'purgatory' (Matt. 25:31-34; Rev. 22:12).

All the righteous receive their rewards at the same time, rather than each person gaining salvation at different times (Heb. 11:39,40; 2 Tim. 4:8).

Death is followed by complete unconsciousness, rather than the activities suggested by the doctrine of purgatory.

We are purged from our sins through baptism into Christ and developing a firm faith in his work during our present life, rather than through some period of suffering after death. We are told to "purge out therefore the old leaven" of sin in our lives (1 Cor. 5:7); to purge ourselves from the works of sin (2 Tim. 2:21; Heb. 9:14). Our time of purging is therefore now, in this life, rather than in a place of purging ('purgatory') which we enter after death. "Now is the day of salvation...now is the accepted time" (2 Cor. 6:2). Our obedience to God in baptism and development of a spiritual character in this life, will lead to our salvation (Gal. 6:8) - not to the spending of a period in 'purgatory'.

The efforts of others to save us through candle-burning and other donations to the Catholic church, will not affect our salvation at all. "They that trust in their wealth...none of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him...that he should still live for ever" (Ps. 49:6-9).

Monday, 14 July 2025

The Pleroma is the Body of Christ

The Pleroma is the Body of Christ




The fullness which is Christ’s- and His “fullness” is God’s fullness- is shared with us: “Of His fullness have all we received” (Jn. 1:16). In this sense the church, as the body of Christ, is “the fullness of Him that fills all in all” (Eph. 1:23; 4:13). 



Through knowing Christ, the believers are therefore “filled with all the fullness of God” (Eph. 3:19). So the fact that Jesus had “all the fullness of God” doesn’t make Him "God" Himself in person; because we will not become God Himself in person because we are filled with God’s fullness; any more than a son is his father. In the same way as Christ’s body after His resurrection was filled with the Spirit and nature of God- so will ours be (1 Cor. 15:49; Phil. 3:20,21).

The ‘fulness’ of Christ dwells ‘bodily’ in the church, even as the ‘fulness’ of the Godhead dwells ‘bodily’ in Him. 


The term Body of Christ has two main but separate meanings: it may refer to Jesus' words over the bread at the Last Supper that "This is my body" in Luke 22:19–20, or to the usage of the term by the Apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 12:12–14 and Ephesians 4:1–16 to refer to the Christian Church.

The Body of Christ as the Christian Church is what we are going to look at

The "Body of Christ" is used by other Protestants to collectively describe believers in Christ, as opposed to only those who are members of the Catholic Church. In this sense, Christians are members of the universal body of Christ not because of identification with the institution of the Church, but through identification with Christ directly through faith. 


members of the body of Christ, --All those who forsake everything pertaining to the personal, limited self and measure up to the Christ standard in thoughts and acts, thus bringing forth the unlimited fruits of Spirit, are members of the one body: the body of Christ.

it is sometimes called the Mystical body of Christ, a mystical union of all Christians into a spiritual body with Jesus Christ as their head. 



1 Corinthians 12::12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
1 Corinthians 12:14 For the body is not one member, but many.
1 Corinthians 12:20 But now are they many members, yet but one body.

At a meeting of the American Psychological Association, Jack Lipton, a psychologist at Union College, and R. Scott Builione, a graduate student at Columbia University, presented their findings on how members of the various sections of 11 major symphony orchestras perceived each other. The percussionists were viewed as insensitive, unintelligent, and hard-of-hearing, yet fun-loving. String players were seen as arrogant, stuffy, and unathletic. The orchestra members overwhelmingly chose "loud" as the primary adjective to describe the brass players. Woodwind players seemed to be held in the highest esteem, described as quiet and meticulous, though a bit egotistical. Interesting findings, to say the least! With such widely divergent personalities and perceptions, how could an orchestra ever come together to make such wonderful music? The answer is simple: regardless of how those musicians view each other, they subordinate their feelings and biases to the leadership of the conductor. Under his guidance, they play beautiful music.

"The beauty and purpose and usefulness of the human body is in its diversity" (GVG, Ber 57:308).

Eph 5:25  Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

Eph 5:30  For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
Eph 5:32  This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

the mystical body of Christ. By faith, its elements are "members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones." Hence, they are "bone of his bone, and flesh of his flesh;" and, therefore, the beloved Eve of the last Adam, the Lord who is to come from heaven, and make her of the same holy spiritual nature as his own. Thus, the church is figuratively taken out of the side of her Lord; for every member of it believes in the remission of sins through his shed blood; and they all believe in the real resurrection of his flesh and bones, for their justification unto life by a similar revival from the dead. "Your bodies are the members," or flesh and bones, "of Christ; ... and he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit" (ICor. 6:15, 17). "I have espoused you to one husband," says Paul, "that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ" (2Cor. 11:2). It will be perceived, then, that the church as defined, is in the present state the espoused of Christ, but not actually married

Eph 4:4  There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;


ONE BODY: See Eph 1:23; 2:15,16. The church is not an organization, but an organism. It is alive. It has a life of its own.


Eph 4:13  Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:


A PERFECT MAN --- into the measure of the full age of the fulness of the Christ: who is THE HEAD, from whom the whole Body, fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint (heir) supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the Body unto the edifying of itself in love" (Eph. 4:3, 4, 13, 15, 16).

Eph 1:23  Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.

v.23 “the fullness” Grk. pleroma. This is a derivative of pleroo used in this phrase also. These words clearly link with the Lord’s promise of “baptism in Spirit” (Acts 1:4) which in its fulfilment is described in Acts as being “filled with Holy Spirit”. cf. John 1:16 and notes there. “of him” i.e. Christ.

 The fulness of Spirit in Christ was in turn “poured out” on believers, so that they were “filled with Holy Spirit”. “that filleth” = Grk. pleroo (cf. 3:19; 4:10; 5:18; Acts 2:2; 13:52) where this word clearly is associated with the Spirit gifts. “all in all”

the Church is the fullness (pleroma) of Christ ( Ephesians 1:23 ). It forms one whole with Him; and the Apostle even speaks of the Church as "Christ" (1 Cor. 12:12). 

“That ye might be filled with all the fulness of God” (Eph 3:19). “The fulness of him that filleth all (his ecclesias) in all (places),


His body was like the beryl." The "body" here is the "One Body" of which Paul speaks in his epistles; as, "the Ecclesia which is His body, the fulness of Him (the Spirit) who perfects all things in all" saints. When the fulness is brought in the body will be complete (Rom. 11:25; Eph. 1:23); and it will then be "like a beryl."


Concerning the fullness, it is I.  I (the christ) was sent down in the body (of Jesus) for the seed that had fallen away. And I came down to their mortal model. But they did not recognize me, thinking I was a mortal. I spoke with the one who is mine, and the one who is mine listened to me just as you also who have listened to me today. And I gave him authority to enter into the inheritance of his fatherhood. And I took him the one who is mine up to my Father. They the Aeons were brought to completion filled with rest through his salvation. Since he was deficiency, he became fullness. The Letter of Peter to Philip (Nag Hammadi Codex VIII, 2)


The Interpretation of Knowledge


For no beast exists in the Aeon. For the Father does not keep the sabbath, but (rather) actuates the Son, and through the Son he continued to provide himself with the Aeons. The Father has living rational elements from which he puts on my members as garment
He became an emanation of the trace. For also they say about the likeness that it is apprehended by means of his trace. The structure apprehends by means of the likeness, but God apprehends by means of his members. He knew them before they were begotten, and they will know him. And the one who begot each one from the first will indwell them. He will rule over them.



But who is it that redeemed the one who was reproached? It is the emanation of the name. For just as the flesh has need of a name, so also is the flesh an Aeon that Wisdom has emitted. It received the majesty that is descending, so that the Aeon might enter the one who was reproached, that we might escape the disgrace of the carcass and be regenerated in the flesh and blood of ... (8 lines missing)... destiny. He [...] and the Aeons [...] they accepted the Son although he was a complete mystery [...] each one of his members [...] grace. When he cried out, he was separated from the Church like portions of the darkness from the Mother, while his feet provided him traces, and these scorched the path of the ascent to the Father.

Aeons that exist in that place. Some exist in the visible Church - those who exist in the Church of men - and unanimously they proclaim to one another the Pleroma of their aeon. And some exist for death in the Church on whose behalf they go - she for whom they are death - while others are for life. Therefore they are lovers of abundant life. And each of the rest endures by his own root. He puts forth fruit that is like him, since the roots have a connection with one another and their fruits are undivided, the best of each. They possess them, existing for them and for one another. So let us become like the roots, since we are equal

Moreover, if they would wait for the exodus from the (earthly) harmony, they will come to the Aeon. If they are fit to share in the (true) harmony, how much the more those who derive from the single unity? They ought to be reconciled with one another. Do not accuse your Head because it has not appointed you as an eye but rather as a finger. And do not be jealous of that which has been put in the class of an eye or a hand or a foot, but be thankful that you do not exist outside the Body. On the contrary, you have the same Head on whose account the eye exists, as well as the hand and the foot and the rest of the parts. Why do you despise the one that is appointed as [...] it desired to [...] you slandered [...] does not embrace [...] unmixed body [...] chosen [...] dissolve [...] of the Aeon [...] descent [...] however plucked us from <the> Aeons that exist in that place. Some exist in the visible Church - those who exist in the Church of men - and unanimously they proclaim to one another the Pleroma of their aeon. And some exist for death in the Church on whose behalf they go - she for whom they are death - while others are for life. Therefore they are lovers of abundant life. And each of the rest endures by his own root. He puts forth fruit that is like him, since the roots have a connection with one another and their fruits are undivided, the best of each. They possess them, existing for them and for one another. So let us become like the roots, since we are equal [...] that Aeon [...] those who are not ours [...] above the [...] grasp him [...] since [...] your soul. He will [...] we gave you to him. If you purify it, it abides in me. If you enclose it, it belongs to the Devil. Even if you kill his forces that are active, it will be with you. For if the soul is dead, still it was enacted upon (by) the rulers and authorities.

Receive now the teaching of the one who was reproached - an advantage and a profit for the soul - and receive his shape. It is the shape that exists in the presence of the Father, the word and the height, that let you know him before you have been led astray while in (the) flesh of condemnation.

Likewise I became very small, so that through my humility I might take you up to the great height, whence you had fallen. You were taken to this pit. If now you believe in me, it is I who shall take you above, through this shape that you see


















Here, then, was a symbolic man blazing in glory and power: and representative of the Eternal Spirit hereafter to be manifested in a NEW ORDER OF ELOHIM -- aggregately ONE MAN -- the One Man of the One Spirit, whom the true believers shall all come unto 




 Daniel saw the "perfect man" -- the Eternal manifested in the glorified flesh of a multitude -- symbolically represented in the measure of his full age.






Daniel next informs us concerning the Spirit-man "the Man of the One" that "






Wednesday, 26 March 2025

The Sethian Trinity and Its Differences from the Catholic Trinity

The Sethian Trinity









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The Sethian Trinity and Why It Is Different from the Catholic Trinity

The Sethian Concept of the Trinity

The Sethian Gnostic tradition presents a unique understanding of the divine triad, distinct from the traditional Catholic Trinity. In Sethian cosmology, the highest divine principle is the transcendent, unknowable One, often referred to as the Invisible Spirit. From this supreme source emanates the divine Forethought, Barbelo, who is both the first manifestation of the One and the androgynous Mother-Father of all existence. Together, the One and Barbelo produce a divine offspring, forming a triadic structure that mirrors the Catholic concept of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit but differs significantly in meaning and function.

As described in The Gnostic Bible, this trinity emerges through a process of emanation rather than being co-equal persons within one God:

“The original divine entity is the infinite One, the invisible Spirit (revealed as the transcendent One in the Secret Book of John and the Vision of the Foreigner). From the One emanates the divine Forethought Barbelo, and together the One and Barbelo produce a divine child, to form an exalted triad or trinity.” (The Gnostic Bible, p. 110)

This structure is not based on co-substantiality but on hierarchical emanation, where the divine unfolds itself into multiplicity while preserving unity. The One remains beyond comprehension, while Barbelo acts as its first visible manifestation, a concept absent in Catholic Trinitarian doctrine.

Barbelo as the Mother in the Trinity

One of the most striking differences between the Sethian Trinity and the Catholic Trinity is the inclusion of a feminine principle. Catholic doctrine identifies the Holy Spirit as neither male nor female but often speaks of the Spirit in masculine terms. In contrast, Sethian Gnosticism explicitly presents Barbelo as the divine Mother.

The Apocryphon of John describes how John, grieving after Jesus' crucifixion, experiences a vision in which he encounters a divine being with three forms:

“He said to me, ‘John, John, why do you doubt, and why are you afraid? ... I am the one who is with you always. I am the Father; I am the Mother; I am the Son.’” (Elaine Pagels, The Gnostic Gospels)

The inclusion of the Mother within the divine triad reflects an androgynous view of divinity, in contrast to the strictly masculine conceptualization of the Catholic Trinity. The Sethian texts emphasize that the Spirit, known as the Virgin Spirit, has both male and female attributes, which is why Barbelo is called both "Mother" and "Father":

“She became the Mother of everything, for she existed before them all, the mother-father [matropater] ... She, Barbelo, asked the Virgin Spirit for Incorruptibility. The Spirit agreed. Incorruptibility came forth and stood by Thought and Foreknowledge.” (Apocryphon of John)

This depiction of Barbelo as the Mother aligns with Sethian theology, which sees creation as emerging through a dynamic process of emanation rather than direct creation. Barbelo does not create independently but mediates divine power, producing the Upper Aeons and the spiritual realms.

The Sethian Trinity and Divine Emanation

In Sethian thought, the divine reality is structured through emanation rather than a single God existing in three co-equal persons. The Sethian Trinity maintains a clear hierarchy:

  1. The Invisible Spirit (The One) – The ultimate, unknowable source of all existence.

  2. Barbelo (The Mother-Father) – The first emanation, embodying both masculine and feminine aspects.

  3. The Son (Autogenes, the Self-Begotten One) – The divine offspring, who embodies the creative Word and acts as the agent of divine revelation.

This structure is clearly described in the Gospel of the Egyptians:

“Three powers came forth from him (the One); they are the Father, the Mother, (and) the Son (...) The second ogdoad-power, the Mother, the virginal Barbelon.” (Gospel of the Egyptians)

The multiplicity of divine attributes within the One does not dissolve the divine unity. Instead, it reveals how the One unfolds itself while remaining indivisible. This contrasts with the Catholic Trinity, which holds that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are co-eternal, co-equal persons of one divine essence.

The Role of Barbelo in the Sethian Trinity

Barbelo is not merely an aspect of the divine but an active participant in the unfolding of existence. She is described as the universal womb, the source from which the divine realm emerges:

“She is the universal womb
She is before everything
She is:
Mother-Father
First Man
Holy Spirit
Thrice Male
Thrice Powerful
Thrice Named
Androgynous eternal realm
First to arise among the invisible realms.”
(Trimorphic Protennoia)

Her role is not just to reflect the One but to act as a divine mediator who generates and sustains the spiritual cosmos. This makes her fundamentally different from the Holy Spirit in Catholicism, who does not produce divine beings or realms.

Comparison with the Catholic Trinity

While both Sethian and Catholic Trinities consist of three divine figures, their theological implications differ:

  1. Emanation vs. Co-Eternal Persons – The Catholic Trinity consists of three co-equal, co-eternal persons who are distinct yet of the same divine essence. In contrast, the Sethian Trinity is structured as a process of emanation, where the Father begets the Mother, who then brings forth the Son.

  2. Androgyny vs. Exclusively Masculine Language – The Sethian Trinity embraces an androgynous conception of divinity, recognizing Barbelo as both Mother and Father. Catholicism, while acknowledging that God transcends gender, uses predominantly masculine terms for the divine persons.

  3. Barbelo’s Role as the Womb of the Aeons – Unlike the Holy Spirit, who sanctifies and proceeds from the Father and the Son in Catholic theology, Barbelo is an active creative force who generates the Upper Aeons, giving structure to the divine world.

  4. Monotheistic vs. Polytheistic Interpretation – The Catholic Trinity maintains that God is one being in three persons, emphasizing monotheism. The Sethian system, while maintaining divine unity, presents a series of divine emanations that could be interpreted as a more complex, multi-layered divinity.

Conclusion

The Sethian Trinity fundamentally differs from the Catholic Trinity in its structure, purpose, and understanding of divinity. While Catholic theology insists on the equality and singular essence of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, the Sethian tradition envisions a hierarchical emanation where Barbelo plays a vital role as both the Mother of the Aeons and the mediator of divine power. This interpretation reflects a broader, more mystical vision of the divine, where the One unfolds itself into multiple aspects while preserving its unity.

In summary, the Sethian Trinity challenges traditional Catholic doctrine by presenting a gender-inclusive model of divinity, a process of emanation instead of co-equal persons, and a more dynamic interaction between the divine figures. This theological vision offers an alternative understanding of the divine mystery, one that resonates with the themes of hidden knowledge and revelation central to Gnostic thought.













Original text 

The original divine entity is the infinite One, the invisible spirit (revealed as the transcendent One in the Secret Book of John and the Vision of the Foreigner). From the One emanates the divine forethought Barbelo, and together the One and Barbelo produce a divine child, to form an exalted triad or trinity. (The Gnostic Bible - Page 110)


The Gnostic Gospels By Elaine Pagels:


The Apocryphon of John relates how John went out after the crucifixion with "great grief" and had a mystical vision of the Trinity. As John was grieving, he says that the [heavens were opened and the whole] creation [which is] under heaven shone and [the world] trembled. [And I was afraid, and I] saw in the light . . . a likeness with multiple forms . . . and the likeness had three forms.14 

To John's question the vision answers: "He said to me, 'J˚hn, Jo[h]n, why do you doubt, and why are you afraid? ... I am the one who [is with you] always. I [am the Father]; I am the Mother; I am the Son."15 This gnostic description of God—as Father, Mother and Son—may startle us at first, but on reflection, we can recognize it as another version of the Trinity. The Greek terminology for the Trinity, which includes the neuter term for spirit (pneuma) virtually requires that the third "Person" of the Trinity be asexual. But the author of the Secret Book has in mind the Hebrew term for spirit, ruah, a feminine word; and so concludes that the feminine "Person" conjoined with the Father and Son must be the Mother. The Secret Book goes on to describe the divine Mother:

. . . (She is) . . . the image of the invisible, virginal, perfect spirit . . .
She became the Mother of everything, for she existed before them
all, the mother-father [matropater] . . .16

Friday, 21 March 2025

Prophecies about the corruption of the church

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**Welcome to Pleroma Pathways, apocalyptic and mystic Christianity where we explore esoteric and apocalyptic texts.**  

## **Prophecies about the Corruption of the Church**  

The theme of the corruption of the church is central to many Gnostic writings, reflecting concerns over the church's deviation from spiritual truths. These texts often critique earthly institutions claiming to represent Christ while practicing hypocrisy, partiality, and materialism. Below, we examine insights from the *Nag Hammadi* scriptures, alongside comparisons to Biblical prophecy.  

### **The Acts of Peter and the Twelve Apostles**  

The Gnostic critique of church corruption is grounded in observations of partiality and sinfulness. The *Acts of Peter and the Twelve Apostles* warns:  
> “For many in the churches have shown partiality to the rich, because they also are sinful, and they give occasion for others to sin. But judge them with uprightness, so that your ministry may be glorified, and that my name also may be glorified in the churches.”  

This critique mirrors James 2:4, which admonishes believers against favoritism, highlighting the enduring problem of inequality and moral compromise in religious communities.  

### **On the Origin of the World**  

Gnostic cosmology introduces the idea of contamination in the visible church, where divine truths become mixed with false teachings. *On the Origin of the World* states:  
> “And out of envy, the authorities mixed their seed with them, in hopes of polluting them. … Each one of them, starting out in his land, revealed his (kind of) knowledge to the visible church constituted of the modelled forms of perdition.”  

This parallels 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4, describing the "man of sin" who corrupts God’s temple. The Gnostic perspective sees false doctrines and leaders as manifestations of the "modelled forms of perdition."  

### **The Second Treatise of the Great Seth**  

The *Second Treatise of the Great Seth* critiques those who persecute genuine spiritual seekers while claiming allegiance to Christ:  
> “We were hated and persecuted, not only by those who are ignorant but also by those who think they are advancing the name of Christ, since they were unknowingly empty, not knowing who they are, like dumb animals.”  

This aligns with Revelation 2:9, which warns of false believers who claim authority but act as a “synagogue of Satan.” The treatise suggests that ignorance and arrogance have led to a counterfeit Christianity.  

### **The Odes of Solomon**  

The *Odes of Solomon* describes the deceptive allure of false teachings and their destructive effects:  
> “All the poisons of error, and pains of death which are considered sweetness. And the corrupting of the Corruptor, I saw when the bride who was corrupting was adorned, and the bridegroom who corrupts and is corrupted.”  

The ode’s imagery recalls Revelation 17:4-5, where the "great harlot" symbolizes a corrupted institution adorned with wealth and abominations. The deceivers’ allure leads followers to “vomit up their wisdom and knowledge,” leaving them in a state of spiritual desolation.  

### **The Gospel of Thomas**  

In the *Gospel of Thomas*, Jesus denounces the religious authorities who withhold divine knowledge:  
> “The Pharisees and the scholars have taken the keys of knowledge and have hidden them. They have not entered, nor have they allowed those who want to enter to go inside.”  

This critique extends to modern institutions that prioritize control over spiritual enlightenment. The analogy of the unsound grapevine (saying 40) further emphasizes the futility of corrupted traditions:  
> “A grapevine has been planted outside the Father. And because it is not sound, it will be plucked out by the root and will perish.”  

### **The Gospel of Judas**  

The *Gospel of Judas* provides an allegorical vision of a corrupted priesthood:  
> “They sacrifice their own children, others their wives… some sleep with men; some are involved in slaughter; some commit a multitude of sins and deeds of lawlessness. And the men who stand before the altar invoke your name, and in all the deeds of their deficiency, the sacrifices are brought to completion.”  

Jesus interprets this as a prophecy of the church’s decline, where leaders invoke His name but perpetuate sin:  
> “They have planted trees without fruit, in my name, in a shameful manner.”  

This echoes Jude 13, describing such leaders as “wandering stars” destined for judgment.  

### **The Testimony of Truth**  

Finally, the *Testimony of Truth* critiques superficial faith devoid of true understanding:  
> “The foolish—thinking in their heart that if they confess, ‘We are Christians,’ in word only (but) not with power—give themselves over to ignorance, to a human death, not knowing where they are going nor who Christ is.”  

This condemnation of empty professions of faith resonates with Matthew 7:21, where Jesus warns: “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven.”  

### **Conclusion**  

The *Nag Hammadi* texts illuminate the spiritual dangers of institutionalized corruption, false teachings, and superficial religiosity. Their critiques align with Biblical warnings of a "falling away" and the rise of false leaders. By discerning these patterns, believers are encouraged to seek the incorruptible truth of Christ, free from worldly distortion.  













Prophecies about the corruption of the church

There are many prophecies in the bible about the the corruption of the church but what do the Gnostic Gospels say

The Acts of Peter and the Twelve Apostles

For many in the churches have shown partiality to the rich, because they also are sinful, and they give occasion for others to sin. But judge them with uprightness, so that your ministry may be glorified, and that my name also, may be glorified in the churches." The disciples answered and said, "Yes, truly this is what is fitting to do."

James 2:4 My brothers,show no partiality as you hold the faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory. ..(4) have you not shown partiality among yourselves, and become judges with evil thoughts?

On the Origin of the World

And out of envy the authorities mixed their seed with them, in hopes of polluting them. They could not. Then when the blessed beings appeared in luminous form, they appeared in various ways. And each one of them, starting out in his land, revealed his (kind of) knowledge to the visible church constituted of the modelled forms of perdition. It (viz., the church) was found to contain all kinds of seed, because of the seed of the authorities that had mixed with it.

forms of perdition reminds me of 

 2Th 2:3Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

The Second Treatise of the Great Seth

we were hated and persecuted, not only by those who are ignorant (gentiles, pagans), but also by those who think that they are advancing the name of Christ (so-called Chistians), since they were unknowingly empty, not knowing who they are, like dumb animals. 

revelatin 2:8 “And to the [a]angel of the church in Smyrna write,

‘These things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life: 
9 “I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a [b]synagogue of Satan. 
10 Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will have tribulation ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.

The Odes Of Solomon

Ode 38

All the poisons of error, and pains of death which are considered sweetness.
And the corrupting of the Corruptor, I saw when the bride who was corrupting was adorned, and the bridegroom who corrupts and is corrupted.
And I asked the Truth, Who are these? And He said to me: This is the Deceiver and the Error.
And they imitate the Beloved and His Bride, and they cause the world to err and corrupt it.
And they invite many to the wedding feast, and allow them to drink the wine of their intoxication;
So they cause them to vomit up their wisdom and their knowledge, and prepare for them mindlessness.
Then they abandon them; and so they stumble about like mad and corrupted men.
Since there is no understanding in them, neither do they seek it.
But I have been made wise so as not to fall into the hands of the Deceivers, and I myself rejoiced because the Truth had gone with me.



17 Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and talked with me, saying [a]to me, “Come, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters, 2 with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication.”3 So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast which was full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the filthiness of [b]her fornication. 5 And on her forehead a name was written:

MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT,
THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS

OF THE EARTH.
6 I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And when I saw her, I marveled with great amazement.





The Gospel of Thomas 



(39) Jesus said, The Pharisees and the scholars have taken the keys of knowledge and have hidden them. They have not entered, nor have they allowed those who want to enter to go inside. You should be shrewd as snakes and innocent as doves.

The Pharisees here are a symbol of all false religion and undoubtedly today the Lord would speak this way of the priests and clergy of orthodox Christianity, the churches have lost the keys. The keys of knowledge are the one true faith and hope of Abraham the promises made to him. Therefore we must have the faith as that of Abraham for those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham Gal 3:9 who is the father of us all saying 105 cp. Rom 4:11,12,16. Now his faith and ours is this that the gentiles shall be blessed in him and this promises was made to him before the law and his seed who is the Christ 

39) ## Jesus said, "The Pharisees and the scribes [who are still operating today through the Triple Crown Power controlled by the Vatican] have taken the keys of Knowledge [the higher/inward (spiritual) meaning of the scriptures] and hidden them [behind the fleshly locks of earthly types and images]. They themselves have not entered [in their depraved condition and deceptive practices they have shut themselves out of the Kingdom], nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to [these have become "wolves in sheep's clothing" who subvert the knowledge of truth that they may continue to "lord it over you" for the glory of men]. #You, however, be as wise as serpents [the Pharisees and scribes (Mat 23:33, 12:34 etc.. we must be aware that the devil will use many deceptions and tricks through your own flesh and the people around you to find ways "to accuse you day and night before the Father"] and as innocent as doves [we are to take great care not to harm anyone, even "those who hate you and despitefully use you" for they are all your brothers and some are there for the sole purpose of the Elect (doves/peacemakers) that they may be tested and refined in the Way]." 

saying 40 Jesus said, "A grapevine has been planted outside the father. And because it is not sound, it will be plucked out by the root and will perish."


But what orthodox churches of Christianity called the error was planted outside of the father’s wises in the days of the apostles and Paul also tells us that wolfs will come in and destroy the truth and this evenly gave birth to the man of lawlessness when Constine removed that which was holding it back.. This grapevine cannot bear fruit (everlasting life) and those in it are already dead not knowing the knowledge of the truth that brings everlasting life. 


40)# Jesus said, "A grapevine [religion] has been planted outside of the Father, but being unsound [in health being rooted in the depraved imaginations of men], it will be pulled up by its roots [that it has no chance to come back] and destroyed [by Jesus the true vine (Jn. 15:1)]."

(102) Jesus said, Shame on the Pharisees.
[today, the Churches that spread the wrong message to gain power and profit for themselves like most Churches that call themselves 'Catholic', 'Christian' or 'Evangelic', Mormons] They are like a dog sleeping in the cattle manger. It does not eat or let the cattle eat. [They will spiritually starve, because instead of drinking from Jesus Christ's mouth, they spread lies either because they have their own agenda or they simply just don't see the truth and don't let their 'believers' drink from Jesus Christ's words either]."


102) Jesus said, "Woe to the Pharisees [who hid the Key of Knowledge], for they are like a dog [unclean animal] sleeping [spiritually dead in law] in the manger [where the animals (beasts) food is kept] of oxen [the Laity who are to tread out the corn (the Word of God)], for neither does he eat ["if anyone is not willing to work, neither let him eat"] nor does he let the oxen eat [the Laity are always discouraged or kept from doing so by religious leaders who love to "lord it over them"]."




In The Gospel of Judas we can we the corruption of the church


THE GOSPEL OF JUDAS

THE DISCIPLES SEE THE TEMPLE AND DISCUSS IT

They [said, “We have seen] a great [house (Ezekiel 8:6) with a large] altar [in it, and] twelve men (Ezekiel 8:11,16)— they are the priests, we would say—and a name; and a crowd of people is waiting at that altar, [until] the priests [… and receive] the offerings. [But] we kept waiting.” [Jesus said], “What are [the priests] like?” They [said, “Some …] two weeks; [some] sacrifice their own children, others their wives, in praise [and] humility with each other; some sleep with men; some are involved in [slaughter]; some commit a multitude of sins and deeds of lawlessness. And the men who stand [before] the altar invoke your [name], [39] and in all the deeds of their deficiency, the sacrifices are brought to completion […].” After they said this, they were quiet, for they were troubled.


JESUS OFFERS AN ALLEGORICAL INTERPRETATION OF THE VISION OF THE TEMPLE

Jesus said to them, “Why are you troubled? Truly I say to you, all the priests who stand before that altar invoke my name. Again I say to you, my name has been written on this […] of the generations of the stars through the human generations. [And they] have planted trees without fruit, in my name, in a shameful manner.” Jesus said to them, “Those you have seen receiving the offerings at the altar—that is who you are. That is the god you serve, (2 Thess 2:3,4) and you are those twelve men you have seen. The cattle you have seen brought for sacrifice are the many people you lead astray [40] before that altar. […] will stand and make use of my name in this way, and generations of the pious will remain loyal to him. After him another man will stand there from [the fornicators], and another [will] stand there from the slayers of children, and another from those who sleep with men, and those who abstain, and the rest of the people of pollution and lawlessness and error, and those who say, ‘We are like angels’; they are the stars that bring everything to its conclusion. For to the human generations it has been said, ‘Look, God has received your sacrifice from the hands of a priest’—that is, a minister of error. But it is the Lord, the Lord of the universe, who commands, ‘On the last day they will be put to shame.’” [41] Jesus said [to them], “Stop sac[rificing …] which you have […] over the altar, since they are over your stars and your angels and have already come to their conclusion there. So let them be [ensnared] before you, and let them go [—about 15 lines missing—] generations […]. A baker cannot feed all creation [42] under [heaven]. And […] to them […] and […] to us and […]. Jesus said to them, “Stop struggling with me. Each of you has his own star, (Jude 13) and every[body—about 17 lines missing—] [43] in […] who has come [… spring] for the tree […] of this aeon […] for a time […] but he has come to water God’s paradise, and the [generation] that will last, because [he] will not defile the [walk of life of] that generation, but […] for all eternity.”


what the disciples have seen in Jerusalem is interpreted as a foreshadowing of the emerging Catholic church

The vision of the temple and twelve priests should first be understood from an historical point of view.
The Gospel of Judas challenges the idea that God wants people to die as martyrs—just as it challenges the idea that God wanted Jesus to die. Whoever wrote this gospel—and the author is anonymous—is challenging church leaders who teach that.


The Testimony of Truth

The foolish - thinking in their heart that if they confess, "We are Christians," in word only (but) not with power, while giving themselves over to ignorance, to a human death, not knowing where they are going nor who Christ is, thinking that they will live, when they are (really) in error - hasten towards the principalities and authorities. They fall into their clutches because of the ignorance that is in them. For (if) only words which bear testimony were effecting salvation, the whole world would endure this thing and would be saved. But it is in this way that they drew error to themselves. ...
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... they do not know that they will destroy themselves. If the Father were to desire a human sacrifice, he would become vainglorious.

For the Son of Man clothed himself with their first-fruits; he went down to Hades and performed many mighty works. He raised the dead therein; and the world-rulers of darkness became envious of him, for they did not find sin in him. But he also destroyed their works from among men, so that the lame, the blind, the paralytic, the dumb, (and) the demon-possessed were granted healing. And he walked upon the waters of the sea. For this reason he destroyed his flesh from [...] which he [...]. And he became [...] salvation [...] his death ...
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... everyone [...] how many they are! They are blind guides, like the disciples. They boarded the ship; at about thirty stadies, they saw Jesus walking on the sea. These are empty martyrs, since they bear witness only to themselves. And yet they are sick, and they are not able to raise themselves.

But when they are "perfected" with a (martyr's) death, this is the thought that they have within them: "If we deliver ourselves over to death for the sake of the Name we will be saved." These matters are not settled in this way. But through the agency of the wandering stars they say they have "completed" their futile "course", and [...] say, [...]. But these [...] they have delivered themselves ...
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... but they resemble [...] them. They do not have the word which gives life. (The Testimony of Truth)





Tuesday, 18 March 2025

Prophetic Visions in the Gospel of Thomas: A Timeline of Church History and Its Transformation












Prophetic Visions in the Gospel of Thomas: A Timeline of Church History and Its Transformation
 
Introduction

The Gospel of Thomas opens with a striking statement:


"These are the secret sayings that the living Jesus spoke and Didymos Judas Thomas recorded.
(1) And he said, 'Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death.'"

This introduction emphasizes that Jesus' words are living sayings—sayings that impart enduring wisdom and truth. In the Coptic text, most sayings begin with "Jesus said," while in the Greek version, they are written in the present tense, "Jesus says," reinforcing the idea that Jesus continues to speak through his words.

Many of these sayings contain prophetic elements, outlining the coming Kingdom, the fate of the righteous and the wicked, and the course of history leading to the age to come.
Seeking and the Future Kingdom

Right from the beginning, Saying 2 presents a prophecy of the Kingdom and beyond:


(2) Jesus says: "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. And when he finds, he will be dismayed. And when he is dismayed, he will be astonished. And he will rule over the all. And after having reigned, he shall rest."

This reveals a future timeline:
The disciples must seek and find the Kingdom.
When they understand it, they will be astonished.
They will rule over all things—but this reign is yet to come.
After their rule, they will rest.

This parallels 1 Corinthians 15:24, which states that Christ will hand over the Kingdom to the Father at the end of the Messianic reign, initiating the ages of ages.
The Fall of Jerusalem and the New Age

The Gospel of Thomas provides insight into the events surrounding 70 CE and beyond:


(9) Jesus said, "Now the sower went out, took a handful (of seeds), and scattered them... Some fell on the road... Others fell on rock... Others fell on thorns... And others fell on the good soil and produced good fruit: it bore sixty per measure and a hundred and twenty per measure."

This describes the spreading of the gospel message, which encountered opposition and acceptance.


(10) Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world, and see, I am guarding it until it blazes."

This fire represents both judgment and purification. In Saying 82, Jesus identifies himself as both fire and the Kingdom.


(11) Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away."

Heaven here represents political rule. The heaven of the Jewish system passed in 70 CE, but another heaven—the Gentile age—will also pass.


(16) Jesus said, "Men think, perhaps, that I have come to cast peace upon the world. They do not know that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth: fire, sword, war."

This aligns with Jesus' words in Matthew 10:34, emphasizing the division his message would bring.
The Corruption of the Church

As time progressed, corruption entered the faith:


(20) The disciples said, "Tell us what the Kingdom of Heaven is like."
He said, "It is like a mustard seed, the smallest of all seeds. But when it falls on tilled soil, it produces a great plant and becomes a shelter for birds of the sky."

While some interpret this positively, the birds can represent false influences, as seen in Daniel 4:20-22, where birds symbolize the nations that seek refuge in worldly power. This suggests the Roman church's rise, where political alliances overshadowed the purity of the gospel.


(39) Jesus said, "The Pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of Knowledge and hidden them."

Here, the Pharisees represent all false religious leaders who obscure the true gospel.


(40) Jesus said, "A grapevine has been planted outside of the Father, but being unsound, it will be pulled up by its roots and destroyed."

This grapevine is false Christianity, flourishing outside God's wisdom. The true vine is Christ (John 15:5), but apostate churches spread teachings not rooted in the Father.


(57) Jesus said, "The Kingdom of the Father is like a man who had [good] seed. His enemy came by night and sowed weeds among the good seed..."

The enemy represents the doctrine of the Pharisees and the Roman church. Night refers to the times of the Gentiles, during which false Christianity dominated. The harvest represents the end of the age when the tares (false believers) are separated from the wheat (the righteous).
The Apostasy and the Loss of Truth

Eventually, truth was buried:


(96) Jesus said, "The Kingdom of the Father is like a certain woman. She took a little leaven, [concealed] it in some dough, and made it into large loaves."

This symbolizes corruption within the faith, a prophecy of apostasy.


(97) Jesus said, "The Kingdom of the [Father] is like a woman carrying a jar full of meal. While she was walking, the handle of the jar broke, and the meal emptied out behind her... When she reached her house, she set the jar down and found it empty."

The woman represents the Church. The meal is the gospel, lost over time due to negligence.
The Reformation and the Final Judgment

With the rise of the printed Bible, truth re-emerged:


(109) Jesus said, "The Kingdom is like a man who had a [hidden] treasure in his field without knowing it..."

This describes the rediscovery of biblical truth.

Yet, false teachings persist:


(102) Jesus says: "Cursed are they, the Pharisees, because they are like a dog which has lain in the cattle manger, but will neither eat nor allow the oxen to eat it."

Modern religious authorities, like the ancient Pharisees, hinder access to truth.

A final judgment will come:


(98) Jesus said, "The Kingdom of the Father is like a certain man who wanted to kill a powerful man. He drew his sword, struck the wall, and then slew the powerful man."

The powerful man represents the kingdom of men, which will be overthrown by Christ’s return.
The End of the Age

The final transformation of the world is described:


(111) Jesus said, "The heavens and the earth will be rolled up in your presence. And one who lives from the Living One will not see death."

This refers to the transition from the present order to the age to come.


(113) His disciples said, "When will the Kingdom come?"
Jesus said, "It will not come by waiting for it... Rather, the Kingdom of the Father is to be spread out upon the earth, but men do not see it."

The Kingdom is already working in the world, yet its full realization awaits the future.
Conclusion

The Gospel of Thomas presents a prophetic timeline:
The Kingdom was proclaimed.
Apostasy and corruption overtook the faith.
The truth was rediscovered.
A final judgment will bring an end to the present age.
The righteous will rule and ultimately rest.
Thus, Jesus’ sayings not only reveal deep spiritual truths but also foretell the course of history leading to the coming ages of ages..


























These are the secret sayings that the living Jesus spoke and Didymos Judas Thomas recorded. 1. And he said, "Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death."

In all the Sayings in the GTh they mostly start with “Jesus said” that is in the Coptic. However, in the Greek the quotation formulas are given in the present tense “Jesus says” so this means that Jesus lives through his sayings or that the words that Jesus speaks are living saying the sayings that bring everlasting life and to understand his sayings you will not experience death.

At the very start of the gospel of Thomas in saying 2 we are give a prophecy of the Kingdom age and beyond

(2) 1 Jesus says: "Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. 2 And when he finds, he will be dismayed. 3 And when he is dismayed, he will be astonished. 4 And he will rule over the all. And after having reign he shall rest"

We are told to seek and find, in Thomas we are told that we should seek the kingdom of God when we find it (enter into it) we shall reign and after having reigned, we shall rest

This is a commentary on the time table of the second coming and future kingdom. The disciples have sought and found but their rule and their rest will only appear in the future. at the present time the disciples can obtain rest when they can rid themselves of their burdens the time at which the disciples will rule over the all has not yet come

There is also a greater rest after the ruling over the all. The disciples will rule over the all. And after having reign he shall rest" we shall rest when Jesus hands over the Kingdom to the Father 1Cor 15:24 This saying takes us to the end of the 1000 years rule of Christ on earth and this is the start of the ages of ages

if we look a the saying in the Gospel of Thomas as a sequence we can see a chronological of church history

1. Sayings 9 to 11 are is particularly appropriate to the early days of the church, when the message was being circulated far and wide. This ends with 70 AD which is the start of the new heaven
9) Jesus said, "Now the sower went out, took a handful (of seeds), and scattered them. Some fell on the road; the birds came and gathered them up. Others fell on the rock, did not take root in the soil, and did not produce ears. And others fell on thorns; they choked the seed(s) and worms ate them. And others fell on the good soil and produced good fruit: it bore sixty per measure and a hundred and twenty per measure."

10) Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world, and see, I am guarding it until it blazes."

In Saying 82 Jesus is identified as both fire and kingdom so here when he throws fire upon the world we should understand that he has come to reveal the knowledge of the Kingdom upon the world.

However in saying 16 Jesus does not bring peace upon the world but fire, war and the sword.

11) Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?"

we should understand heaven as political not literal

In the days when you consumed what is dead you made it what is alive

In sayings 10 11 and 16 Jesus is speaking about the trouble in his day, which would lead to the fall of Jerusalem in 70 CE, which is symbolised by the passing away of heaven, we are living in the heaven of the Gospel age right now this is also called the times of the gentiles but it to will pass away. Thus, it is also a prophecy of our own time in which we live the end times.


2. But almost immediately came another age when to the pure gospel of the kingdom there were added many false un-scriptural notions-these are the Weeds.

20) The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us what the Kingdom of Heaven is like." He said to them, "It is like a mustard seed, the smallest of all seeds. But when it falls on tilled soil, it produces a great plant and becomes a shelter for birds of the sky."


An essential element in the parable is the growth from seed to tree. This is not the way in which the kingdom of God will come about. Its advent will be sudden; if not instantaneous, at least bewilderingly










3. As time went on the Roman church became more and more powerful and materialistic, so that many political forces deemed alliance with the church well worth seeking. This is the mustard tree with the birds of the air in its branches.



39) Jesus said, "The Pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of Knowledge and hidden them. They themselves have not entered, nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to. You, however, be as wise as serpents and as innocent as doves."

The Pharisees here are a symbol of all false Church leaders of orthodox Christianity the churches have lost and hidden them by saying people go to heaven but no one goes to heaven only Jesus.
The keys of knowledge are the one true faith and hope of Abraham the promises made to him so we must have the faith of Abraham for those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham Gal 3:9 who is the father of us all saying 105 cp. Rom 4:11,12,16. Now his faith and ours is this that the gentiles shall be blessed in him and this promises was made to him before the law and his seed who is the Christ


40) Jesus said, "A grapevine has been planted outside of the Father, but being unsound, it will be pulled up by its roots and destroyed."




57) Jesus said, "The Kingdom of the Father is like a man who had [good] seed. His enemy came by night and sowed weeds among the good seed. The man did not allow them to pull up the weeds; he said to them, 'I am afraid that you will go intending to pull up the weeds and pull up the wheat along with them.' For on the day of the harvest the weeds will be plainly visible, and they will be pulled up and burned."


“His enemy came by night and sowed weeds among the good seed.” The enemy signifies the doctrine of the Pharisees


The “night” signifies: the times of the Gentiles At John 9:4 Jesus spoke of “the night . . . coming when no man can work. Paul also uses the figure in reference to the second coming (#Ro 13:12), where "night" seems to refer to the present age and "day" to the age to come.


“For on the day of the harvest the weeds will be plainly visible, and they will be pulled up and burned." Harvest signifies “the end of the age” thus at the end of the age he would send his reapers; namely, the resurrected believers, his angels, or messenger of destruction, to "gather out of his field" all the tare-like ones and cast them into the place of the Lord, "whose fire is in Zion, and his furnace in Jerusalem" (Isaiah 31:9). Where there should be wailing, and gnashing of teeth. When this should be accomplished the present age would be finished, and the new commonwealth of Israel will begin "for He whose right it is to reign has come." (Ezekiel 21:25-27). "Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.




The enemy in saying 57 planted the grapevine but Nothing can exist outside of the Father. The enemy, the Pharisees, the Roman Church is in league with the authorities of the nations, who everywhere stealthily neutralised the teaching of Christ, spreading false doctrines, and scattering wide their supporters, who drew away the people, and multiplied their own number greatly by the energy of their operations and the popularity of their influence.


The father planted the Lord Jesus as the true vine. “I am the vine, ye are the branches.” “Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away”—a fruitless branch, a useless thing.
Here the Lord is speaking of religious institutions of his own day, although we certainly have our own version in modern times. Anytime religion and state are combined, the result is an oppressive environment that places a stranglehold upon the activity of the spirit of truth. In this Saying Jesus is speaking about what happen in 70 CE when the old covenant was up rooted and the rebellious Jews who rebelled against the new covenant and their King. And it is also still to come to the priest and clergymen of the dogmatic Christian churches who have rebelled against true worship and in time past they have even kill true believers
But what orthodox churches of Christianity called the truth was planted outside of the father’s wises in the days of the apostles and Paul also tells us that wolfs will come in and destroy the truth and this gave birth to the man of lawlessness
This grapevine cannot bear fruit (everlasting life) and those in it are already dead not knowing the knowledge of the truth that brings everlasting life.


4. Ultimately the Dark Ages set in. Truth was completely buried. “The whole was leavened.”


96) Jesus [said], "The Kingdom of the Father is like a certain woman. She took a little leaven, [concealed] it in some dough, and made it into large loaves. Let him who has ears hear."

this prophecy is to foretell the unavoidable spread of corruption through the church “until the whole was leavened”. Far from seeing the gospel conquer the world, the Lord expected the world to conquer the gospel

This is a prophecy of the apostasy

97) Jesus said, "The Kingdom of the [Father] is like a certain woman who was carrying a jar full of meal. While she was walking [on] a road, still some distance from home, the handle of the jar broke and the meal emptied out behind her on the road. She did not realize it; she had noticed no accident. When she reached her house, she set the jar down and found it empty."

The woman is the church and this is a prophecy of the church losing the gospel


5. With the sudden availability of printed Bibles in the 16th century a dramatic change took place. Men discovered Truth for themselves like treasure hid in a field, not because they were looking for it, but simply because they now had access to the Bible..

Saying 109
109) Jesus said, "The Kingdom is like a man who had a [hidden] treasure in his field without knowing it. And [after] he died, he left it to his son. The son did not know (about the treasure). He inherited the field and sold [it]. And the one who bought it went plowing and found the treasure. He began to lend money at interest to whomever he wished."


6. However, since the Reformation sectarianism has multiply. Today there are churches in abundance. All of them have some truth to offer. But there is one which surpasses all others. This pearl of great price is so manifestly superior that a man is glad to let go all the rest for the sake of this one. This is the position today.

76) Jesus said, "The kingdom of the Father is like a merchant who had a consignment of merchandise and who discovered a pearl. That merchant was clever. He sold the merchandise and bought the pearl alone for himself. You too, seek his unfailing and enduring treasure where no moth comes near to devour and no worm destroys."


102) [102]. Jesus says: "Cursed are they, the Pharisees, because they are like a dog which has lain in the cattle manger, but will neither eat <the food there> nor allow the oxen to eat it."

[today, the Churches that spread the wrong message to gain power and profit for themselves like most Churches that call themselves 'Catholic', 'Christian' or 'Evangelic', Mormons],

[They will spiritually starve, because instead of drinking from Jesus Christ's mouth, they spread lies either because they have their own agenda or they simply just don't see the truth and don't let their 'believers' drink from Jesus Christ's words either]."

7. Before very long the Lord’s sword of judgement will have its fulfilment when the powerful man is killed.

98) Jesus said, "The Kingdom of the Father is like a certain man who wanted to kill a powerful man. In his own house he drew his sword and stuck it into the wall in order to find out whether his hand could carry through. Then he slew the powerful man."

the certain man is the multitudinous body of Christ that will kill the powerful man. the powerful man is the kingdom of men


8) And He said, "The Kingdom is like a wise fisherman who cast His net into the sea and drew it up from the sea full of small fish. Among them the wise fisherman found a fine large fish. He threw all the small fish back into the sea and chose the large fish without difficulty. Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear."


Like the fisherman we need to be exclusively devoted to Jesus and his message


73 Jesus says: "The harvest is great but the labourers are few. Pray the Lord to send labourers for the harvest

8. After the sword of judgement the heavens and the earth will be rolled up in the presence of the disciples this is the end of the age

111) Jesus said, "The heavens and the earth will be rolled up in your presence. And one who lives from the Living One will not see death." Does not Jesus say, "Whoever finds himself is superior to the world?"

113) His disciples said to Him, "When will the Kingdom come?" <Jesus said,> "It will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying 'Here it is' or 'There it is.' Rather, the Kingdom of the Father is to be spread out upon the earth, but men will not accept it."



At the end of the age when the heavens and the earth will be rolled up in the presence of the disciples the Kingdom of the Father is to be spread out upon the earth but men will not accept it. this part reminds me of psalm 2





Historical sequence


The complete set of parables in Matthew 13 is worth considering once again, this time as a sequence. Is it just accident that they appear to have special relevance to the changing fortunes of the gospel over the centuries? Their ready conformity to a chronological sequence is certainly impressive.


1. The parable of the Sower is specially appropriate to the early days of the church, when the message was being disseminated far and wide.
2. But almost immediately came another era when to the pure gospel of the kingdom there were added many false unbiblical notions-the Tares.
3. As time went on the church became more and more powerful and materialistic, so that many political forces deemed alliance with the church well worth seeking. This is the mustard tree with the birds of the air in its branches.
4. Ultimately the Dark Ages set in. Truth was completely obscured. “The whole was leavened.”
5. With the sudden availability of printed Bibles in the 16th century a dramatic change took place. Men discovered Truth for themselves like treasure hid in a field, not because they were looking for it, but simply because they now had access to the Bible.
6. However, since the Reformation sectarianism has proliferated. Today there are churches galore. All of them have some truth to offer. But there is one which surpasses all others. This pearl of great price is so manifestly superior that a man is glad to let go all the rest for the sake of this one. This is the position today.
7. Before very long the Lord’s drag-net of judgment will have its fulfilment when the catch will be found to include a mystical number of great fishes (Jn. 21:11).