Does the Gospel of Thomas teach the Trinity?

Does the gospel of Thomas teach the trinity


Saying 61 tells us this


61) Jesus said, "Two will rest on a bed: the one will die, and other will live." Salome said to him, "Who are You, man, that You, as though from the One, have come up on my couch and eaten from my table?" Jesus said to her, "I am He who exists from the Undivided One. I was given some of the things of my Father." <Salome said,> "I am Your disciple." <Jesus said to her,> "Therefore I say, if he is <undivided>, he will be filled with light, but if he is divided, he will be filled with darkness." 

(Thomas O. Lambdin (1988)


The Undivided one is the Father Jesus was given some of the things of his Father


Therefore Jesus and the Undivided Father are not the same person

In Logion 61 of the Gospel of Thomas, Jesus engages in a conversation with Salome regarding the nature of his identity. Salome asks Jesus who he is, expressing surprise that he has come to her couch and eaten from her table. Jesus responds by stating that he comes from the Undivided One and has been given some of the things of his Father.

From this logion, it can be inferred that Jesus and the Undivided One (referring to the Father) are distinct entities. Jesus speaks of receiving things from his Father, indicating a relationship between them. This logion does not explicitly address the concept of the Trinity, nor does it provide detailed theological explanations about the nature of Jesus' relationship with the Father.

It is worth noting that interpretations of this logion may vary among different Christian traditions and theological perspectives. Some groups, such as the Christadelphians, interpret this logion as supporting their rejection of the Trinity doctrine. They argue that it emphasizes the distinction between Jesus and the Father and their separate identities.

It is important to recognize that the Gospel of Thomas is one among many texts that contribute to the diverse range of early Christian thought. Different interpretations and understandings of theological concepts, including the Trinity, exist within Christianity.

(13) Jesus said to his disciples, "Compare me to something and tell me what I resemble." Simon Peter said to him, " You are like a just messenger." Matthew said to him, "An intelligent philosopher is what you resemble." Thomas said to him, "Teacher, my mouth utterly will not let me say what you resemble." Jesus said, "I am not your (sing.) teacher, for you have drunk and become intoxicated from the bubbling wellspring that I have personally measured out. And he took him, withdrew, and said three sayings to him. Now, when Thomas came to his companions they asked him, "What did Jesus say to you?" Thomas said to them, "If I say to you (plur.) one of the sayings that he said to me, you will take stones and stone me, and fire will come out of the stones and burn you up." 

(Stephen Patterson and Marvin Meyer 1998)

Notice here that Simon Peter and Matthew describe Jesus as a just messenger or a intelligent philosopher vs the son of the Living God in the canonical gospels 

30) Jesus said, "Where there are three gods, they are gods. Where there are two or one, I am with him."
Translated by Thomas O. Lambdin (from Coptic)

(30) Jesus said "Where there are three, they are without God, and where there is only one, I say, I am with that one."
Translated by Marvin Meyer (from Greek)

The Jews had and worshipped several Gods at that time - Moses had to fight with that fact already and Jesus encountered it again. Even though the Trinity was formed after Jesus' crucifixion - Father, Son, Holy Spirit - it can be assumed that Jesus was aware of the plans for his future, so here Jesus is having a slap against Trinitarian doctrine, declaring that a doctrine of 3 gods is polytheistic if one understands that each of the gods is a separate god. Thus there is only one true god and where there is one god alone Jesus is with that him,

Reading it again,

30) Jesus said, "Where there are three gods, they are gods. Where there are two or one, I am with him."

Jesus is denouncing the idea of the trinity, whether that be 3 in 1 or three separate beings.
To Jesus, there is only the Undivided One.

So when I read this I see Jesus denouncing a cluster of three gods, also known as a trinity of gods.

This teaches us that the Father is the Undivided One, the Deity is not divided into 3 persons.

But the Coptic text is corrupted and the Greek like the Coptic is nonsense as well April Deconick in her translation of the GTh "The original Gospel of Thomas in Translation" has reconstructed the text: Jesus says:  Jesus said, “Where two or more are gathered in My name, I am with them.”Jesus said, ‘Split a piece of wood or lift a stone, and you will see My Father’s handiwork.”

The interpretation you provided for Logion 30 of the Gospel of Thomas is a valid interpretation within the context of rejecting the Trinitarian doctrine. You argue that Jesus is denouncing the idea of the Trinity and emphasizing the belief in the Undivided One, the oneness of God. This interpretation suggests that Jesus is asserting his unity with the one true God and challenging the concept of multiple gods or a triune God.

However, it's important to note that Logion 30 is subject to different translations and interpretations due to variations in the available manuscripts. The Coptic and Greek versions of the Gospel of Thomas have slight differences in wording and can lead to divergent understandings.

The translation you cited by April DeConick provides an alternative reading where Jesus speaks about being present when two or more are gathered in his name, emphasizing his divine presence in communal worship or spiritual gatherings. This interpretation focuses on the spiritual presence of Jesus rather than directly addressing the concept of the Trinity.

Overall, the Gospel of Thomas is a complex and enigmatic text, and scholars have different viewpoints on its intended meaning and original teachings. The interpretations of individual sayings can vary based on the translation, textual variants, and the theological lens through which they are examined.

77) Jesus said, "It is I who am the light which is above everything. It is I who now am everything. From Me now that everything comes forth, and up to Me did everything reach. Split a piece of wood, and I am there. Lift up the stone, and you will find Me there."

This saying is about the Lord Jesus been give all power and authority in heaven and on earth after his resurrection so this saying is speaking about Jesus' new power of providence over the universe

Thus the Lord can now penetrate everything

77) Split a piece of wood, and I am there. Lift up the stone, and you will find Me there."

108) Jesus said, "He who will drink from my mouth will become like Me. I myself shall become he, and the things that are hidden will become revealed to him."

Thus we too can become equal with Jesus this saying plainly states that the believer who drinks from Jesus’ mouth becomes Jesus

The gospel of thomas does not teach the Trinity 

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You are correct that the Gospel of Thomas does not explicitly teach the doctrine of the Trinity as it is understood in traditional Christian theology. The Gospel of Thomas, being a Gnostic text, presents a unique perspective on spiritual teachings and focuses on the inner wisdom and enlightenment gained through gnosis (knowledge).

The doctrine of the Trinity, which states that God is one being existing in three persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit), is a concept that developed within the mainstream Christian tradition over time and is primarily based on interpretations of various biblical texts.

While the Gospel of Thomas contains teachings attributed to Jesus, it does not explicitly address the concept of the Trinity or provide detailed theological explanations in that regard. The emphasis of the text is more on the individual's spiritual journey, self-discovery, and the attainment of inner wisdom.

It is important to recognize that different texts within early Christianity present diverse perspectives, and not all of them delve into the complexities of theological doctrines such as the Trinity. The Gospel of Thomas, in particular, highlights a distinct Gnostic approach to spiritual teachings, focusing on personal revelation and the inner transformation of the individual.

Therefore, if one is seeking explicit teachings on the Trinity, they would typically turn to other canonical texts within the New Testament or later theological writings that address this specific doctrine.

In Logion 13 of the Gospel of Thomas, Jesus engages in a conversation with his disciples regarding their perceptions of him. Simon Peter compares Jesus to a just messenger, and Matthew compares him to an intelligent philosopher. However, when it is Thomas' turn to respond, he states that he cannot adequately express what Jesus resembles.

This logion highlights the diverse perspectives and understandings of Jesus among his disciples. It contrasts with the canonical Gospels where Simon Peter confesses Jesus as the "Messiah, the Son of the living God" (Matthew 16:16). The Gospel of Thomas emphasizes the unique and enigmatic nature of Jesus, suggesting that he cannot be easily confined to a single role or title.

It is important to note that the Gospel of Thomas is a Gnostic text and presents a distinct perspective on Jesus and his teachings. It focuses on the inner spiritual journey and the acquisition of gnosis (knowledge) rather than specific doctrinal beliefs. Consequently, the descriptions given by the disciples in this logion reflect their limited understanding of Jesus at that moment.

The differences in portrayal between the Gospel of Thomas and the canonical Gospels can be attributed to the different theological contexts and intentions of the texts. The canonical Gospels aim to present a comprehensive narrative of Jesus' life, teachings, and identity, while the Gospel of Thomas prioritizes a more esoteric and mystical exploration of Jesus' wisdom and the disciple's quest for enlightenment.

Logion 77 in the Gospel of Thomas emphasizes the all-encompassing presence of Jesus as the light above everything. It speaks to his divine nature and suggests his omnipresence. The saying highlights the spiritual significance of Jesus, who is portrayed as the source from which everything comes forth and to which everything reaches. The imagery of finding Jesus even in the splitting of wood or lifting of a stone conveys the idea of his pervasive presence.

While the BASF provides a framework for understanding the beliefs of specific Christian groups, it does not directly address Logion 77 or offer a specific interpretation of this saying. The interpretation of Logion 77 may vary among different individuals and Christian traditions. It is important to study the saying within the context of the Gospel of Thomas and consider various scholarly interpretations to gain a more comprehensive understanding of its meaning.

The Birmingham Amended Statement of Faith (BASF) is a specific doctrinal statement followed by certain Christian groups, including the Christadelphians. While the BASF provides a framework for understanding their beliefs, it does not directly address or interpret individual sayings from the Gospel of Thomas, such as Logion 77.

Logion 77 in the Gospel of Thomas emphasizes the all-encompassing presence of Jesus as the light above everything. The saying highlights the spiritual significance of Jesus and the idea that everything originates from him and reaches back to him. The imagery of being present in the splitting of wood or lifting of a stone conveys his pervasive presence.

Regarding the belief of Christadelphians, it is true that they do not believe in the pre-existence of Jesus. According to their beliefs, Jesus was begotten by God through the Holy Spirit and was a mortal man, sharing in human nature and experiencing the effects of Adam's transgression.

While the BASF provides a theological framework for understanding Christadelphian beliefs, it does not offer a specific interpretation of Logion 77 or address the concept of Jesus as the light above everything. Interpretations of this saying may vary among different individuals and Christian traditions. It is important to study the saying within the context of the Gospel of Thomas and consider various scholarly interpretations to gain a more comprehensive understanding of its meaning.

Certainly. According to the BASF and the Christadelphian belief in God manifestation, Jesus is understood as God with us, God manifested in the flesh. The belief is that Jesus, while being of like nature with mortal man, was begotten of God and inhabited by God through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. This belief emphasizes that Jesus, during his natural life, shared in the physical nature of humanity, experiencing the effects of Adam's transgression, including death. Jesus is seen as the representative of Adam's disobedient race and the means through which God accomplished His plan of redemption.

In light of this understanding, Logion 77 in the Gospel of Thomas can be seen as expressing the concept of Jesus as the manifestation of God's light that is above everything. It emphasizes the all-encompassing presence and authority of Jesus, who is the source from which everything comes forth and to whom everything reaches. The saying highlights the divine nature and significance of Jesus as the embodiment of God's light and presence in the world.

The Eighth Day Bible Prophecy 2 Enoch, The Epistle of Barnabas & Elpis Israel

God shows Enoch the age of this world, its existence of seven thousand years, and the eighth thousand is the end, neither years, nor months, nor weeks, nor days

2Enoch 33:1 And I appointed the eighth day also, that the eighth day should be the first-created after my work, that it should revolve in the revolution of the seventh thousand, so that the eighth thousand might be in the beginning of a time not reckoned and unending with neither years nor months nor weeks nor days nor hours like the first day of the week, so also that the eighth day of the week might return continually.

2 And now, Enoch, all that I have told thee, all that thou hast understood, all that thou hast seen of heavenly things, all that thou hast seen on earth, and all that I have written in books by my great wisdom, all these things I have devised and created from the uppermost foundation to the lower and to the end, and there is no counsellor nor inheritor to my creations.

3 I am self-eternal, not made with hands, and without change.

4 My thought is my counsellor, my wisdom and my word are made, and my eyes observe all things how they stand here and tremble with terror.

On the Origin of the World 

After the day of rest, Sophia sent her daughter Zoe, being called Eve, as an instructor, in order that she might make Adam, who had no soul, arise, so that those whom he should engender might become containers of light. When Eve saw her male counterpart prostrate, she had pity upon him, and she said, "Adam! Become alive! Arise upon the earth!" Immediately her word became accomplished fact. For Adam, having arisen, suddenly opened his eyes. When he saw her, he said, "You shall be called 'Mother of the Living'. For it is you who have given me life.

Now the first Adam, (Adam) of Light, is spirit-endowed and appeared on the first day. The second Adam is soul-endowed and appeared on the sixth day, which is called Aphrodite. The third Adam is a creature of the earth, that is, the man of the law, and he appeared on the eighth day [...] the tranquility of poverty, which is called "The Day of the Sun" (Sunday). And the progeny of the earthly Adam became numerous and was completed, and produced within itself every kind of scientific information of the soul-endowed Adam. But all were in ignorance.


The big find in Barnabas is chapter 15, concerning the sabbath, which says...

1 Furthermore it was written concerning the Sabbath in the ten words which he spake on Mount Sinai face to face to Moses. "Sanctify also the Sabbath of the Lord with pure hands and a pure heart."
2 And in another place he says, "If my sons keep the Sabbath, then will I bestow my mercy upon them."
3 He speaks of the Sabbath at the beginning of the Creation, "And God made in 6x days the works of his hands and on the 7th day he made an end, and rested in it and sanctified it."
4 Notice, children, what is the meaning of "He made an end in 6 days"? He means this: that the Lord will make an end of everything in 6,000 years, for a day with him means a thousand years. And he himself is my witness when he says, "Lo, the day of the Lord shall be as a thousand years." So then, children, in 6 days, that is in 6 thousand years, everything will be completed.
5 "And he rested on the 7th day." This means, when his Son comes [at the start of that day] he will destroy the time of the wicked one, and will judge the godless, and will change the sun and the moon and the stars, and then he will truly rest on the 7th day [Amen].
6 Furthermore he says, "Thou shalt sanctify it with clean hands and a pure heart." If, then, anyone has at present the power to keep holy the day which God made holy, by being pure in heart, we are altogether deceived.
7 See that we shall indeed keep it holy at that time, when we enjoy true rest, when we shall be able to do so because we have been made righteous ourselves and have received the promise, when there is no more sin, but all things have been made new by the Lord  then we shall be able to keep it holy because we ourselves have first been made holy.
8 Furthermore he says to them, "Your new moons and the sabbaths I cannot away with." Do you see what he means? The present sabbaths are not acceptable to me, but that which I have made, in which I will give rest to all things and make the beginning of an eighth day, that is the beginning of another world.

9 Wherefore we also celebrate with gladness the eighth day in which Jesus also rose from the dead, and was made manifest, and ascended into Heaven (Chapter 15)

These Sabbaths will be no longer celebrated on the seventh day. They will be changed from the seventh to the eighth or first day of the week, which are the same. The "dispensation of the fullness of times" (Eph 1:10), popularly styled the Millennium, will be the antitype, or substance, of the Mosaic feast of tabernacles which was "a shadow of things to come." In this type, or pattern, Israel were to rejoice before Yahweh for seven days, beginning "on the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when they had gathered the fruit of the land." In relation to the first day of the seven, the law says, "it shall be a sacred assembly: ye shall do no servile work therein." This was what we call Sunday. The regulation then continues, "on the eighth day," also Sunday, "shall be a sacred assembly unto you, and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto Yahweh: it is a solemn assembly; and ye shall do no servile work therein." Again, "on the first day shall be a Sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a Sabbath" (Lev 23:34-43).

Thus the Lord's day, the day of His resurrection from His seventh day imprisonment in the tomb, becomes the sabbath day of the future age which shall be hallowed by the priests of Israel, and be observed by all nations as a day of sacred assembly in which they shall rejoice, and do no manner of servile work at all.

This change of the sabbath from the seventh to the eighth, or first day of the week, is the full development and establishment of the observance of the Lord's day by the disciples of Jesus since the times of the apostles.

The Lord's day is the first day of the week, or day after the seventh, and therefore styled the eighth day. It is termed His day, because it is the week-day of His resurrection. Upon this day the disciples of Christ assembled to show forth His death, and to celebrate His resurrection;

The Pleroma as a Place Psalm 89:11

The Pleroma as a Place Psalm 89:11

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The Concept of the Pleroma Colossians 2:9

The Pleroma is a word used in the Bible it means fullness is a derivative of pleroo and pletho (“to fill, to make full”) 

“Pleroo is an extremely common verb in both NT and LXX. Its simple meaning is “fill”; eg “I am filled with comfort” (2Co 7:4). “The house was filled with the odour of the ointment” (John 12:3).

Pleroma, “fulness”, is associated with this imagery a good deal. “In him (Jesus) dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodily” (Col 2:9). “The Word was made flesh, and tabernacled among us; and we beheld his glory....full of grace and truth...and of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace” (John 1:14,16; 

The Greek word for "fullness" is pleroma - the same word is also found in Col. 1:19, regarding how all God’s “fullness” dwelt in Jesus. Although the Lord Jesus had human nature, He never sinned; because He was full of the God’s personality and character. To know Jesus was to know God- for He was and is God’s Son, and indeed the perfect replica of Him in human form. 

Col 1:19  For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness <4138> dwell;

Col 2:9  For in him dwelleth all the fulness <4138> of the Godhead bodily.

John 3:34  For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

Jesus being filled with God's spirit or fullness refers to Jesus being filled with God's character and personality, as well as his divine power 

The fullness of the Deity the logos or the anointing spirit also known as the Divine Christ descended (Eph. 4:10) upon the man Jesus at his baptism, and at his crucifixion returned.

In The Nag Hammadi Library there is a text called The Letter of Peter to Philip in this document it has the Biblical understanding that the fullness/pleroma is manifested in Jesus. Jesus himself he says Concerning the fullness, it is I. 

The Letter of Peter to Philip:

“Concerning the fullness, it is I. I was sent down in the body for the seed that had fallen away. And I came down to their mortal model. But they did not recognize me, thinking I was a mortal. I spoke with the one who is mine, and the one who is mine listened to me just as you also who have listened to me today. And I gave him authority to enter into the inheritance of his fatherhood. And I took him . . . filled . . . through his salvation. Since he was deficiency, he became fullness.

The heavenly pleroma is [understood as] the centre of divine life, a region of light "above" our world...  The Christ is interpreted as an intermediary aeon who was sent from the pleroma.

According to this text the logos or anointing spirit is the Fullness which came down at the baptism to fill Jesus with all the fullness of the Deity

The Pleroma of God

The Pleroma of God or the fullness of God refers to his personality, character and divine nature. This divine nature can be described as Aeonian the word Aeon is used to described the divine nature and the place or abode were the Deity dwells see Isaiah 57:15

Isaiah 57:15  For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy: I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite.

Yahweh is residing in eternity or as the Septuagint rendering puts it dwelling (in) the aeon. This shows that aeon is the nature of the Yahweh and his dwelling place 

1tim 6:16  Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

heb 1:3  Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person (5287 ὑπόστασις hupostasis), and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

The Greek word hypostasis means substance and always refers to physical corporeal nature. 

God is corporeal because he has substance

2Pe 1:4  Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

Col 1:19  For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness <4138> dwell;

Col 2:9  For in him dwelleth all the fulness <4138> of the Godhead bodily.

God has a substance it is his divine nature and power which is the fullness of his being, he is immortal dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen. 

The Pleroma as a Place 

In the Bible the word Pleroma is used to described the divine nature and substance of God (Col 1:19  Col 2:9) however it also used to describe places and things whatever fills the earth or is contained in it, 1 Corinthians 10:26, 28 (Psalm 23:1 Jeremiah 8:16; Ezekiel 12:19, Psalm 95:11  1 Chronicles 16:32); those things with which the baskets were filled, Mark 6:43 the filling by which a gap is filled up, Matthew 9:16; Mark 2:21 fullness = that which fills, entire contents,

If you where to ask someone what is heaven like they would not be able to describe it.  The best way to describe heaven would be to describe it as the fullness of God's glory or the fullness of God's presence. 

This is how the word fullness was used by the Gnostics to describe the invisible heavens a place full of divine beings filled with the divine nature, glory and power of the Uncreated Eternal Spirit

It is the spirit-world, a world perceptible only by the intellect however it is not a incorporeal world. 

psa 89:11  Thine are the heavens — the earth also is Thine, The habitable world and its fulness, Thou hast founded them.

psa 89:11 Heaven is yours, the earth also is yours;

The productive land and what fills it—you yourself have founded them.

The heavens to the earth the world and the fullness you have founded

There is no distinction here of the word fullness between heaven, earth and the world each one has its fullness. the fullness of the heaven of heavens is its entire contents they are the work of his hands, and the seat of his majesty, and the throne of his glory; the angels of heaven are his, his creatures and servants; a court of celestial beings

Compare Psalm 112:4-6 LXX 

4  (112:4) The Lord is high above all the nations; his glory is above the heavens.

5  (112:5) Who is as the Lord our God? who dwells in the high places,

6 (112:6) and [yet] looks upon the low things in heaven, and on the earth:

Compare Psalm 112:5 LXX 5 (112:5) Who is as the Lord our God? who dwells in the high places, the summits or hills literally the heights of the Most High define the space of his pleroma

There is a third signification (of place), in keeping with which God Himself is called a place, by reason of His containing all things and being contained by nothing whatever, and being a place for all to flee into, and because He is Himself the space which holds Him; for He is that which He Himself has occupied, and nought encloses Him but Himself. I, mark you, am not a place but in a place and each thing likewise that exists; for that which is contained is different from that which contains it, and the Deity, being contained by nothing, is of necessity Itself Its own place Philo, De Somniis, I, xi, 63-64. Likewise, see De Migrations AbraEami, xxxii, 181-182; xxxv, 192>; De ConTusione Lingu'arum, xxvii, 136; and Legum Allegoria, I, xiv, 44.

Here there is a spatial sense to the pleroma

Like Psalm 89:11 and Psalm 112 Genesis chapter 1 also speaks about God establish the heavens 

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth (the entire universe).
Gen 1:1 ¶  In the beginning of God’s preparing (The verb does not necessarily describe creation out of nothing) the heavens and the earth — 

We learn Genesis 1:1 that God exists outside of time and God existed before the creation of heavens and the earth

The heavenly places or the spiritual heavens (pleroma) is the waters above the firmament (outer-space) which is likened to a spread-out curtain.

These spiritual heavens are where Christ sits far above all heavens (Eph. 4:10), that is, far above the physical heavens called outer-space or the firmament which is the limit or boundary.

The Spiritual Heavens are called the Aeon Pleroma

The Pleroma in Gnostic Text

The Pleroma is sometimes compared by allegory to a city, temple tree, and body

The Heavens or the Pleroma did not always exist it was produced and formed by the Eternal Spirit this we call the emanation.
(He created the holy Pleroma in this way. . .The Untitled Text in the Bruce Codex)

The Pleroma is also called the ‘emanations of the Father “Therefore, all the emanations of the Father are pleromas, and the root of all his emanations is in the one who made them all grow up in himself.” (Gospel of Truth)

In the Untitled Bruce Codex ms, the Pleroma is described as a temple-city with four gates and a Holy of Holies: “He created the holy Pleroma in this way: four gates with four monads within it, one monad to each gate and six helpers (parastatai) to each gate, ... and an unutterable aspect - to each gate. One of his aspects looks forth from the gate to the outer aeons, the other looks inwards to the Setheus, and the other looks to the height, and the sonship is in each monad. ... The unutterable aspect of the overseer looks towards to the holy of the holies, that is, the infinite one who is the head of the sanctuary.” (Untitled Text in the Bruce Codex)

- The Untitled Text in the Bruce Codex also describes the Pleroma as ‘the body’ of the monad, which is like the mother-city “This is the manner in which they are all within the monad : there are twelve monads making a crown upon its head ; each one makes twelve. And there are ten decads surrounding its shoulders. And there are nine enneads surrounding its belly. And there are seven hebdomads at its feet, and each one makes a hebdomad. And to the veil which surrounds it like a tower, there are twelve gates. There are twelve myriad powers at each gate, and they are called archangels and also angels. This is the mother-city of the only-begotten one.” (Untitled Text in the Bruce Codex)

- As the ‘immeasurable deep’: “After these things there is another place which is broad, having hidden within it a great wealth which supplies the All. This is the immeasurable deep.” (Untitled Text in the Bruce Codex)

- One may also ‘become full’: “Become full, and leave no space within you empty.” (Apocalypse of James)

Summary

First of all the Pleroma did not always exist it was produced and formed by the Eternal Spirit this we call the emanation. (He created the holy Pleroma in this way The Untitled Text in the Bruce Codex)

The word Pleroma means "fullness". It refers to all existence beyond visible universe. In other words it is the world of the Aeons, the heavens or spiritual universe.

Bythos is the spiritual source of everything which emanates the pleroma,

The Pleroma is both the abode of and the essential nature of the True Ultimate Deity or Bythos.

The Pleroma as well as being the the dwellings place of the Aeons is also a a state of consciousness

The Pleroma is both a state of consciousness (the Ideas in the Divine Mind) and the dwellings place of the Aeons

As a state of consciousness the pleroma is the fullness of the Divine attributes. the various means by which God reveals Himself: it is the totality of the thirty aeons or emanations which proceed from God they are aspects of the divine mind

The word aeon means temporal sometimes a spatial concept in addition it is also used for personal beings whether divine or mortal.

The Deity is Androgynous! Genesis 1:27

God is Androgynous! Genesis 1-27

The Deity is Androgynous! Genesis 1:27

Thus the logos of the Father goes forth into the All, being the fruit of his heart and expression of his will. It supports the All. It chooses and also takes the form of the All, purifying it, and causing it to return to the Father and to the Mother, Jesus of the utmost sweetness. The Gospel of Truth

God is Androgynous!

But what Does Androgynous Mean?

Being both male and female;
Having both masculine and feminine characteristics.
Having an ambiguous sexual identity.
Neither clearly masculine nor clearly feminine in appearance.-

In other posts I have shown that the holy spirit is a Feminine Aspect of God. Spirit in Hebrew is a feminine noun; but in Greek, neuter. The Holy Spirit is often associated with women’s functions: the birthing process (Jn. 3:5; cf. Jn. 1:13, 1 Jn. 4:7b, 5:1, 4, 18), consoling, comforting, an prophitc groaning in travail of childbirth, emotional warmth, and inspiration.

In this post I will show that God is Androgynous

Consider this: it is only when BOTH man and woman are created in Genesis 1 that God is fully portrayed:

“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them” – Genesis 1:27

In fact, the first time we see God declaring something to be “not good” is when Adam finds himself alone in the Garden:

“Then Yahweh Elohim said, “It is not good that a man should be alone: I will make him a helper fit for him.” – Genesis 2:18

Why did God need to create BOTH genders before mankind fully displayed the image of God? One reason is that this is an allegory of Christ and the church especially when man and woman come together as “one flesh” we see the mystical body of Christ (Genesis 2:24).

Female images for God (drawn from women’s biological activity)

a mother who does not forget the child she nurses (Isa. 49:14-15)

a mother who comforts her children (Isa. 66:12-13) Isaiah 66:12-13

a mother who births and protects Israel (Isa. 46:3-4).

In Isaiah 46:3 God says, "Listen to Me, O house of Jacob, and all the remnant of the house of Israel, you who have been borne by Me from birth and have been carried from My womb."

a mother who gave birth to the Israelites (Dt. 32:18)

You have forgotten the Rock who fathered you, and put out of mind the God who gave you birth.

God has feminine attributes as well as masculine.

God has manifested himself to be both Father and Mother so that we might be more aware of God’s constant presence and willingness to assist us

Later in Isaiah, God says to His people: "Can a mother forget the baby at her breast and have no compassion on the child she has borne? Though she may forget, I will not forget you!" (Isaiah 49:15).

"God did not satisfy himself with proposing the example of a father, but in order to express his very strong affection, he chose to liken himself to a mother, and calls His people not merely children, but the fruit of the womb,

Likewise, when we think of God’s love for those who are reconciled to him in Jesus, we not only think of a strong, protective and wise father, but we can also take comfort in his tender, nurturing, kindness and care seen most beautifully in a mother’s love for her child. What a dynamic God we worship

The Deity is Transcendent The Elohim Handle all the Personal Appearances 1 Timothy 6:14-16

The Deity is Transcendent The Elohim Handle all the Personal Appearances 1 Timothy 6:14-16

The Transcendence of God 

The title of his subject is the "Transcendence of God" but before we look at the meaning of the word transcendent, we will first have an introductory reading from 1 Timothy 6:14-16

1 Timothy 6:14 that you keep this commandment without spot, blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ’s appearing, 15 which He will manifest in His own time, He who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16 who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen. (1 Timothy 6:14-16)

Meaning of Transcendent

transcend

verb: transcend; 3rd person present: transcends; past tense: transcended; past participle: transcended; gerund or present participle: transcending

be or go beyond the range or limits of (a field of activity or conceptual sphere).

surpass (a person or achievement).

transcendent

beyond or above the range of normal or physical human experience.
"the search for a transcendent level of knowledge"

(of God) existing apart from and not subject to the limitations of the material universe.

God is Transcendent

So the Father is transcendent--that means the Deity exist above and beyond our physical universe.

The Father existed outside of time and space before he created the heavens and the earth:

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

The Father is the only truly transcendent Being. Yahweh Elohim created all things on the earth, and in the heavens above, yet He exists above and independent from them

The Deity is far removed from man in fact he is not seen in the bible at all by mortals, man can not see the Deity

John 6:46  Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he that is from God, he hath seen the Father.

The ONE SELF-EXISTENT ETERNAL Deity hath never been seen by any mortal man -- that He is an undivided and invisible unity, pre-existent before the beginning of all things, intelligent and material; He dwells in unapproachable light; and SPIRIT emanates from His substance; (Phanerosis)

God in his nature also transcends that of creation:

Isaiah 57:15 For this is what the High and Lofty One, who is residing forever and whose name is holy, has said: “In the height and in the holy place is where I reside, 

The word translated forever is the Hebrew word Olam עוֹלָם the septuagint has αιωνα

1tim 6:16 the one alone having immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom not one of men has seen or can see. To him be honor and might everlasting. Amen.

3  who being the brightness of the glory, and the impress of His subsistence, bearing up also the all things by the saying of his might — through himself having made a cleansing of our sins, sat down at the right

Heb 12:10  For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed good to them; but he for our profit, that we may be partakers of his holiness.

2Peter 1:4  whereby he hath granted unto us his precious and exceeding great promises; that through these ye may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in that world by lust.

From the bible we learn that God has a substance Hebrews 1:3 and this substance is his divine nature 2Peter 1:4 so God is corporeal and SPIRIT emanates from His substance. Therefore God is both corporeal and incorporeal at the same time

 Omnipresent

God is above in the highest heaven far removed from the earth but he is not inaccessible we can reach him by prayer which is personal communion with God knowledge of him is obtained by the bible and thus the spirit-word engraved on our hearts becomes a manifestation of God within us later allowing the holy spirit to dwell within us which is a manifestation of the father and the son within us

To them God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. Colossians 1:27

God is present everywhere by his spirit power and at the same time God also has unlimited power. However the Deity himself is located in the Highest Heaven.

"Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea; even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me. If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me. Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day" (Psalm 139:7-12).

The Elohim Handle all the Personal Appearances

Transcendence

God is called "invisible" in 1Tim 1:17. Much sport has been made of the Bible by shallow men who claim to see a contradiction in this. They read such passages as Exo 33:11 to prove that Moses saw God (Elohim or Angel) face to face, but they neglect other passages like Acts 7:35, which show that the angels were God's messengers to communicate with man: "Behold, I send an Angel before thee... Beware of him, and obey his voice... for My name is in him" (Exo 23:20,21). 

God could direct one of His angels so that the angel became in effect God. Cp, for example, Gen 32:30 with Hos 12:3-5. Abraham was said to have talked to God, but a careful look at Gen 18:1,2; 19:1 shows that he dealt only with angels. "No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared Him" (John 1:18). 

Elohim

Elohim stands for “powerful ones.” It was often translated by the English non-word “God.” It isn’t that far from being true, though, for it was Elohim who manipulated the planet and placed humans on it. It was Elohim who said 'Let us form the human in our own image.' It was Elohim who appeared to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Isaiah, Ezekiel, David, and Josiah, to name a few. EL (the Deity) has never been seen by anyone.

The Elohim handle all the personal appearances. We know this because Scripture clearly teaches that all creation was produced from One Power (out of and through which are all things) but this One Power operates by way of a multitude of agents (Elohim) who are spirit-embodiments of its power. “But what if some poor human sees Elohim going about El’s business and he thinks they are something else ... like men from Mars?” Beg pardon?

If humans become what they eat is it odd to think humans see what they want to see and think what they want to think? A person who eats, sees, and believes things that aren’t true and proper is bound to have problems somewhere along the line. Tough, isn’t it?

Summary

God is transcendent in that he exists outside all that is the physical universe. God is immanent in that he exists within all the physical universe by his spirit.

The Deity himself does not directly interaction with the creation this is done by the Elohim or the angels Hebrews 1:14 Hebrews 2:5

God is a Corporeal Being James 3:9

God has a physical body

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God is Corporeal 

James 3:9

First what does Corporeal mean?

The definition of corporeal is something related to your body or something physical or tangible

Most Christians today may not know that the ancient Israelites, the early proto-orthodox church and the Christian Gnostic churches had a belief in a Corporeal God that is in a Deity who has a physical form

The Greek word for corporeal is used twice in the Bible 1 Timothy 4:8 and Luke 3:22

◄ 4984. sómatikos ►


Strong's Concordance
sómatikos: of the bodyOriginal Word: σωματικός, ή, όν
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: sómatikos
Phonetic Spelling: (so-mat-ee-kos')
Definition: of the body
Usage: bodily, corporeal.


Thayer's Greek LexiconSTRONGS NT 4984: σωματικός

σωματικός, σωματική, σωματικον (σῶμα), from Aristotle down, "corporeal (Vulg.corporalis), bodily;

a. having a bodily form or nature": σωματικῷ εἴδει, Luke 3:22 (opposed to ἀσώματος, Philo de opif. mund. § 4).

b. pertaining to the body: ἡ γυμνασία, 1 Timothy 4:8 (ἕξις, Josephus, b. j. 6, 1, 6: ἐπιθυμίαι σωματικαί, 4 Macc. 1:32; (ἐπιθυμίαι καί ἡδοναι, Aristotle, eth. Nic. 7, 7, p. 1149b, 26; others; ἀπέχου τῶν σαρκικῶν καί σωματικῶν σπιθυμιων, 'Teaching' etc. 1, 4 [ET])).

Luke 3:22 And the Holy Spirit descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

The Holy Spirit is described as coming down in bodily shape. This was a real visible appearance, and was doubtless seen by the people.

Whilst man was made in the image of God it might be interesting to consider just how like God Man really is from reviewing relevant scriptures on this theme. so now we will look at the physical aspect.

English Standard Version

With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse people who are made in the likeness of God. James 3:9

man is made in the physical similitude of the father

God is revealed as a real, tangible person, with a bodily existence. It is also a fundamental teaching of Christianity that Jesus is the Son of God. If God is not a corporeal (bodily) being, then it is impossible for Him to have a son who was the "image of His person" (Heb.1:3). Further, it becomes difficult to develop a personal, living relationship with 'God', if 'God' is just a concept in our mind, a formless, shapeless thing, floating out in space like a cloud of mist, only with a mind and will.

It is tragic that the majority of religions have this unreal, intangible conception of God.

God being so infinitely greater than us, it is understandable that many people's faith has unwilling to accept the clear promises that ultimately we will see God. Israel lacked the faith to see God's "shape" (Jn. 5:37), clearly showing that He does have a real form. Such faith comes from knowing God and believing His word:

"Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God" (Matt.5:8).

God has a soul

The word soul in the Bible always refers to bodily life living or dead 

Leviticus 26:11 And I will set my tabernacle among you: and my soul shall not abhor you.

So God has a soul and therefore a body.  A soul would indicate that this comprises of both spirit and body. 1Sa 2:35; Ps 11:5; 24:4; Pr 6:16; Isa 1:14; 42:1; Jer 5:9; 6:8; 12:7; 14:19; 15:1; 32:41; 51:14; La 3:20; Eze 23:18; Am 6:8; Mt 12:18; Heb 10:38.

God speaks of “my soul” (Le 26:11, 30; Ps 24:4; Isa 42:1) . By speaking of ‘my ne´phesh,’ The Deity clearly means “myself” or “my person. The Old Testament consistently talks of God as a person; God is spoken of as having eyes, hands, and so forth.

The word soul is used for the physical body:

1 Corinthians 15:44 It is sown a physical body, it is raised up a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one. 45 It is even so written: “The first man Adam became a living soul.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 46 Nevertheless, the first is, not that which is spiritual, but that which is physical, afterward that which is spiritual.

1 Corinthians 15:44  It is sown a body of the soul, it is raised a body of the spirit; if there is a body of the soul, there is also of the spirit:--

45  Thus, also, it is written--The first man, Adam, became, a living soul, the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.

46  Howbeit, not first, is the [body] of the spirit, but that, of the soul,--afterwards, that of the spirit.

God is not just spirit but also has his spirit contained within some almighty corporeal entity, i.e. a divine body. 

A divine/spiritual body implies a substance (Hypostasis Hebrews 1:3) of divine nature (2Peter 1:4) 

Hebrews 1:3 He is the reflection of [his] glory and the exact representation of his very being, and he sustains all things by the word of his power; and after he had made a purification for our sins he sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places.

The Son is the character or exact representation, and the Father is the hypostasis.

Strong's #5287: hupostasis (pronounced hoop-os'-tas-is)

Hypostasis, the original cognate of substantia

Etymologically,

hypostasis = hypó ("under") + stásis ("a standing" = (hístēmi ("to stand") + -sis, verbal noun suffix)) = "that which stands under"

substantia = sub ("under") + stans ("standing", present active participle of stō ("stand")) = "that which stands under".

From this we can conclude that Hypostasis refers to the nature/essence or "substance" of the Father, the Father-Spirit is substantial.

However, in later centuries hypostasis began referring to the "person", not the "nature" or "being" of God. 

"an accurate representation in the manner of an 'impress' or 'stamp', as of a coin to a die" (NIBC); "the mark [which] is the exact impression of the seal" (Barclay). Christ is "the image of God" (2Co 4:4) and "the image of the invisible God" (Col 1:15); although in these two instances, the Gr word "eikon" is different from that used here. John expressed the same idea in the words "anyone who has seen me [Jesus] has seen the Father" (John 14:9).

the Son is the Character of his Hypostasis rendered, in the common version, "express image of his person." The Son is the character or exact representation, and the Father is the hypostasis. In reference to the former, the Father says, in Zech. iii. 9, "Upon One Stone there shall be Seven Eyes ; behold, I will engrave the graving thereof (that is, of the stone), saith He who shall be hosts." The graving engraved on the stone is termed, in Greek, character, an impress wrought into a substance after some archetype or pattern. This archetype is the hypostasis, so that hypostasis is the basis or foundation of character; wherefore the same apostle in Col. i. 15, styles the character engraved the IMAGE of Theos the Invisible. Seth was the image of Adam, and Adam, the image of Elohim (cf. Gen. i. 26 ; v. 3.). Like Seth, Jesus was an image of Adam, but only in relation to flesh. Adam the First was image of Elohim, and this was in relation to bodily form. Body and form were the hypostasis of Adam and Seth; that is, they were the basis or foundation of the images so named. Where body and form do not exist, there can be no image; therefore, where image is predicated of hypostasis, that hypostasis must have both body and form. The Father-Spirit, unveiled, is, then, a bodily form; and as all things are "out of Him," He is the focal centre of the universe, from which irradiates whatever exists. (Eureka by Dr. Thomas)

God’s holy SPIRIT emanates from His substance (Hypostasis) his body or divine nature. This helps us to understand the statement in The Apocryphon of John which says the Monad is both corporeal and none incorporeal at the same time: 

"The One is not corporeal and is not incorporeal." (The Apocryphon of John)

Tertullian notes that "This for certain is He who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God, In what form of God? Of course he means in some form, not none. For who will deny that God is a body although God is a spirit? (John 4:24). For spirit has a bodily substance of its own kind, in its own form. Whatever therefore, was the substance of the Word that I designate a person, I claim for it the name of Son; while I recognize the Son, I assert the distinction as second to the Father." Now interestingly, in the footnote, the editors themselves note "This doctrine of the soul's corporeality in a certain sense is treated by Tertullian in his "De Ressur. Carn" xvii and "De Anima" v. By Tertullian, spirit and soul were considered identical." (ANF, Vol. 3, p. 467).

God is spirit but this is not a disembodied spirit it is in fact spirit embodied

Clement talked about angels, archangels and , First-Created (Exc.10:1,5) in the following Extracts from the Works of Theodotus: 10, 11, 12 and 14. Exc. 10

Extracts from the Works of Theodotus

10 But not even the world of spirit and of intellect, nor the archangels and the First-Created, no, nor even he himself is shapeless and formless and without figure, and incorporeal; but he also has his own shape and body corresponding to his preeminence over all spiritual beings, as also those who were first created have bodies corresponding to their preeminence over the beings subordinate to them. For, in general, that which has come into being is not unsubstantial, but they have form and body, though unlike the bodies in this world......– but they “always behold the face of the Father” and the face of the Father is the Son, through whom the Father is known. Yet that which sees and is seen cannot be formless or incorporeal. But they see not with an eye of sense, but with the eye of mind, such as the Father provided. (Extracts from the Works of Theodotus)

14 The demons are said to be incorporeal, not because they have no bodies (for they have even shape and are, therefore, capable of feeling punishment), but they are said to be incorporeal because, in comparison with the spiritual bodies which are saved, they are a shade. And the angels are bodies; at any rate they are seen. Why even the soul is a body, for the Apostle says, “It is sown a body of soul, it is raised a body of spirit.” And how can the souls which are being punished be sensible of it, if they are not bodies? Certainly he says, “Fear him who, after death, is able to cast soul and body into hell.” Now that which is visible is not purged by fire, but is dissolved into dust. But, from the story of Lazarus and Dives, the soul is directly shown by its possession of bodily limbs to be a body. (Extracts from the Works of Theodotus)

These two quotations from the Works of Theodotus shows that Valentinians understood the soul to be the natural body and that spiritual beings are Corporeal

If God is not a real, personal being, then the concept of spirituality is hard to wrestle with. If God is totally righteous but is not a material being, then we cannot really conceive of His righteousness manifested in human beings. However, once we appreciate that there is a personal being called God, then we can work on our characters, with His help and the influence of His word, to reflect the characteristics of God in our beings.

God's purpose is to reveal Himself in a multitude of glorified beings. His memorial name, Jehovah Elohim, indicates this ('He who shall be mighty ones', is an approximate translation). If God is not a corporeal being, then the reward of the faithful is to have a non-physical existence like God. But the descriptions of the reward of the faithful in God's coming Kingdom on earth show that they will have a tangible, bodily existence, although no longer subject to the weaknesses of human nature.

The faithful are promised that they will inherit God's nature (2 Peter 1:4). If God is not a person then this means we will live eternally as immaterial spirits. But this is not Bible teaching. We will be given a body like that of Jesus (Phil. 3:21), and we know that he will have a literal body in the Kingdom which will have hands, eyes and ears (Zech. 13:6; Isa. 11:3). The doctrine of the person of God is therefore related to the Gospel of the Kingdom.

It should be evident that there can be no sensible concept of worship, or personal relationship with God until it is appreciated that God is a person, that we are in His image physically, although a very imperfect image, and need to develop His mental image so that we may take on the fulnlless of His physical image in the Kingdom of God.