Friday, 3 April 2020

Great Power Gospel of Thomas Saying 85




 Saying 85

(85) Adam came into being out of a great power and a great wealth, and he was not worthy of you; for if he had been worthy, [he would] not [have tasted] of death.

Many have mistakenly said this passage is referring to us getting back the image of God. Yet, this passage is clearly speaking of a MAN that fell from grace. Adam was certainly one who fell from grace. He was the Son of God, yet his fateful decision shook the earth and brought humanity down to the grave (Sheol, pit, hell, Hades).

“Adam came from great power and great wealth“. the great power and the great wealth is the Spirit of God: Heb "ruach Elohim": "The spirit (wealth) of the Powers". "Spirit" = the "wisdom" of Pro 8:22-26. Was Hovering: "Moved" (AV). Like a mother bird brooding over her young: Deu 32:11 (cp Exo 19:4 the Spirit is described as a dove in Matt. 3:16). The words portray the energy-giving presence of God -- wrapping, protecting, and caressing the chaos of the unfinished earth as He prepared to complete His creation. (Gen 1:2).

Powers said (The Elohim), "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the living creatures." Gen 1:26,27 So Powers (the Elohim) created man in His image; male and female created He them.

Now from the consideration adduced, it is evident that the phrases, "and God said," and "God made," and "God created," occurrent in the first chapter, are equivalent to "Lord God"; or more properly, Elohim said, created, and made, are equivalent to Yahweh Elohim doing thus, as brought out in the second chapter-- "One Spirit in a plurality of Agents": not a single one in three, but One in hosts: and hence the title so frequently in Scripture, "Yahweh of Hosts" -- the Yahweh-Spirit in multitudinous manifestation.

The plurality of Elohim in the work of creation is manifest from Gen. 1:26 -- "Let Us make man in 'Our' image after our likeness." If the Yahweh-spirit had been solitary in the work, He would rather have said, if He said anything: "I will make man in my image, after my likeness." What was said is recorded to reveal to the reader the true relation of things. The mandate issued from Yahweh that man be made in the Spirit-type, and so constituted, that divine intelligence and power should be displayed through his organism.

That spirit-type was the angel Elohim after whom Adam and Eve were made. In form and likeness the same, only in nature of inferior quality. This was Yahweh's pleasure, and it was done by the fingers of His power. In reference to this, we read in Psalm 8:3, "When I consider the heavens, the work of Thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; what is man that thou art mindful of him? and the Son of Man that Thou visitest him? For Thou hast made him a little lower than the Elohim,"* etc. Quoted in the New Testament by Paul, the word mai-Elohim is rendered by "than angels," (Heb. 2:9); because Elohim are the agents or executive fingers of the Spirit. "The Spirit of God" and "the fingers of God" are synonymous, as appears from Matt. 12:28; Luke 11:20; and Elohim are spirit, being out of Ail. What the fingers of the hand are to the brain, such are the hosts of Elohim to Ail; they are "Unity of Spirit," which is "God."
“and he did not become worthy of you. For, had he been worthy he would not have tasted death."

Adam was found unworthy? Funk and Hoover write: "In developing the significance of Jesus, early Christians often used the mythic figure of Adam as a point of comparison. One finds this especially in Paul (Rom 5:12-15,17,19; [cp. Job 31:33; Pr 28:13; Ho 6:7;] 1 Cor 15:21-22, 42-50; 1Ti 2:14 ): in contrast to Adam, whose sin led to death, stands Jesus, whose obedience leads to life. The fate of Adam, according to Thom 85:2, was death; the fate of those who find the meaning of Jesus' words will be not to taste death, according to Thomas 1 The phrase 'not taste death' is a favourite of Thomas (Thom 1; 18:3; 19:4; 111:2), although it was also known to the Gospel of John (8:51-52)." (The Five Gospels, p. 518)

85) Jesus said, "Adam [and all of his sons in the flesh] came into being from a great power [we are all formed in the womb by God] and a great wealth [higher/inward (spiritual) knowledge which we are all born with the potential to harness for "He enlightens everyone who comes into the world"], but he did not become worthy [because he fell prey to his fleshly desires in Eve] of you [who have been given the "Keys of Knowledge" and are entrusted with the Word of Truth]. For had he been worthy [to have the mystery revealed to him (eat from the Tree of Life)], [he would] not [have experienced] death [would not have been separated from the Father - i.e. recreated in the image of an image]." 

Gospel of Thomas Saying 84




Saying 84

(84) Jesus said: When you see your likeness, you rejoice. But when you see your images which came into existence before you, which neither die nor are made manifest, how much will you bear?

R. McL. Wilson writes: "Like Irenaeus and some other Fathers, Thomas distinguishes between the 'image' and the 'likeness' in Genesis i. 26. Man on earth possesses only the likeness; the iamge (for Thomas) is his heavenly counterpart, the pattern on which he was made. Now we see only the likeness, as in a mirror (1Cor 13:12, 2Cor 3:18), but when Christ shall appear we shall be like Him (1John 3:2). Logion 24 speaks of the light that is in a man of light (cf. Matt 5:14, 6:22-23), logion 50 of the disciples (or the Gnostics) as coming from the Light…..Christ is the image of God (Col. 1:15 etc.), and Paul speaks of 'the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ' (2Cor. 4:4, 6). Colossians 3:3 speaks of our life as 'hid with Christ in god,' and we may also recall the Pauline formula 'in Christ.' Finally, the opening words of logion 83 may owe something to reflection on Romans 1:20 ff., the 'invisible things of God' being interpreted as the archetypal patterns, the 'images'." (Studies in the Gospel of Thomas, pp. 108-109)

Here Jesus is speaking about angels been our double see (Acts 12:15 Matt 18:10). Paul also says that people have heavenly bodies which are images of the heavenly man, bodies that will be donned after the resurrection and judgment (1Cor 15:35-49). The glory of the heavenly body differs from the earth in the same way that the illumination of the sun differs from the moon and the stars. As we have worn the image of the earthly Paul states, so also shall we wear the image of the heavenly. The heavenly image corresponds to the heavenly man who Paul identifies with Christ while the earthly with Adam who begot a son in his likeness and image (1Cor 15:48 and Gen 5:3). Thus from that time forward, the earthly bodies as images of the fallen Adam have been reproduced, while the heavenly bodies as images of the heavenly man, the Christ , must be put on after the resurrection (1Cor 115:53 2Cor 5:1-10)

The “likeness“ is man‘s likeness to the Elohim. When, therefore, Elohim said, "let us make man in our image;" and it is added, "male and female created he them;" it would seem that both the man and the woman were created in the image and likeness of Elohim. In this case, some of the Elohim are represented by Adam's form, and some by Eve's. so Our likeness is the image of the earthly man, which is only a type of the heavenly man 1Cor 15:45-49 Rom 5:14
Thus “likeness” is man‘s mortal body or body of soul compared to the image=man’s spiritual body or body of spirit, which will be after the image of the heavenly man.
First a moral regeneration than a corporeal regeneration (Col 3:10 Phil 3:20,21) than we will truly become the twin brothers of Christ the Thomas class or Christadelphians, the brethren in Christ. (Col 1:2)

“Which came in to being before you did“. The true believers have been chosen by God, before the foundion of the world to be made into the image and likeness of his son (Rom 8:29).
“They neither die nor are visible.” the Father is Invisible no mortal man can see him so in the age to come

84) Jesus said, "When you see your likeness [being projected unto the scriptures], you rejoice [because it suits you to see yourself and not God in them]. But when you see your images [recognize that it is you whom they are speaking of] which came into being before you [they were written before these things happened in your life], and which neither die [the Truth cannot die but only be covered up] nor become manifest [to those who do not recognize the law of the spirit in them], how much [guilt] you will have to bear ["in that day" of discovery]!" 

images and light gospel of thomas Saying 83




Saying 83

(83) Jesus said: The images are revealed to man, and the light which is in them is hidden in the image of the light of the Father. He will reveal himself, and his image is hidden by his light.

This saying tells us that the human being is made in God’s image. Thus, the saying begins by affirming that human beings are the visible ‘images’ of God. However, this is only a type of the true image that we are to become. The image of the son of God, into which true believers are transformed, is likeness not only to heavenly body Phil 3:21 but also to the mind of Christ and Christ tells us to be holy like our heavenly Father.

Light: Light is used to denote truth and its knowledge the saving truth embodied in Christ and imparted to mankind true believers are called light having obtained saving wisdom in fellowship with Christ add ref. The word is used in connection with joy, blessing and life in contrast to sorrow, adversity and death (Gen 1:3 Job 10:22 18;5). In addition, to signify God’s presence and favour (Ps 27:1 Isa 9:2 2Cor 4:6). God’s holiness is expressed in terms of light, in 1Tim 6:16 and 1jn 1:5 where it is said that ‘God is light’. In john’s Gospel, the term light refers to God’s holiness as a revelation of his love in Christ and the penetration of that love into lives darkened by sin. So Christ refers to himself as ’the light of the world’ (Jn 8:12 9:5 12:46)

Thus the image of the Father’s light is Christ (2Cor 4:4 Col 1:15) Paul speaks of the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of the Lord Jesus Christ (2Cor 4:4,6). Those who are still mortal cannot adequately perceive this light. When mortality is at last swallowed up by life (2Cor 5;4) he will be fully manifest (Col 3:4 1jn 3;2). Now we see only in a mirror (1Cor 13:12; 2Cor 3:18). but when Christ shall appear we shall be like him (Phi 3:20,21) Christ is the image of God so we shall be made into the true image of God for at the moment we are in the image of Adam who is only a type of the true image Christ Jesus.

83) Jesus said, "The images [lower/outward forms of worship] are manifest to man [in the worldly religious systems that to this day still cling to the Old Covenant and the traditions, rituals and ordinances of men], but the light [the higher/inward (spiritual) meaning] in them remains concealed in the image ["locked" and hidden from view in the various names, objects and rituals] of the light of the Father [these have no light of their own]. He ["the Father of lights"] will become manifest [in the flesh - in your words and deeds as was with Christ], but his image will remain concealed by his light [those who love the darkness cannot bear the light]." 

The Decad is the Duality of the Pentad



The Decad is the Duality of the Pentad; large knowing and small knowing opposites of life & death / light & darkness.

Thought in this world.
Thought in the Christ.

Forethought in this world.
Forethought in the Christ.

Truth in this world.
Truth in the Christ.

Indestructibility in this world.
Indestructibility in the Christ.

Everlasting life in this world.
Everlasting life in the Christ.

Wisdom calls out at the gates, “The kingdom is within; her gates open; the light is on come now and enter in”.

As above so is below.

One is Big knowing and the other is little knowing.

One is the truth set you free, the other is the truth in the world that always changes directions.

We’re in the II coming, and we’re to enter the kingdom within and go the way. Once you’re within the kingdom this is where mind and heart are kept safe.

To enter in soul awakens and changes into a little child and learns how to left and right glide within the mind called the spirit as he enters the narrow way leading to life, comes out into the light of knowing the truth of who you are, where you came from and what’s going on.

Its a strange thing the II coming, so quiet in silence, Christ is taking this world by stealth.

before he came into being gospel of thomas saying 19




gospel of thomas  saying 19 

Jesus said, "Blessed is that which exsted before coming into being. If you exist as my disciples and listen to my sayings, these stones will minister unto you. Indeed, you have five trees in paradise, which do not move in summer or winter, and whose leaves do not fall. Whoever is acquainted with them will not taste death."

A blessed one is he who came into being from the beginning, before he came to be. Another verion of this saying is found in the gospel of Philip 61. The Lord says: Blessed is he who is before he comes into being! For he who is, both was and shall be. (Rev/Ap 1:8; 4:8 11:17)

Here Jesus is giving some extra information to the question asked by the disciples from the above saying “tell us how our end will”? so Here Jesus is answering the question to saying 18 finding the beginning (the new creation) you will become a blessed one who came into being before he came into being (born again).

If you become disciples to me

19) Jesus said, "Blessed is he who came into being [was anointed (spirit baptized) from heaven (having inward substance)] before he came into being [was "anointed" (water baptized) by man (having only an outward form) for only the anointing spirit guides one into all truth]. If you become My disciples and listen to My words [the Keys to unlocking the mystery], these stones [the books (tablets of stone) i.e. scriptures)] will minister to you [they will reveal their hidden spiritual meanings to you]. (Jn 8:47, 52, 58; Jn 15:8. Mt 3:3; Lk 3:3 Saying 13 Mt 7:9)  For there are five trees [Tree of Knowledge (worldly wisdom full of subversion), Tree of Life (heavenly wisdom full of Truth - see Prov 3:18), some other trees to consider - Tree of the field, tree of oil - olive tree], for you in Paradise [we know a Fig Tree was in the garden for they hid themselves with its leaves - but we also know that they lose their leaves in winter just as their symbolic people did (Israel and Judah)] which remain undisturbed summer and winter and whose leaves [healing words] do not fall [so these must relate to Truth]. Whoever becomes acquainted with them [the Truth] will not experience death [it sets you free from it so the trees must be tied to the Word of Truth in some way (Pentateuch - first five books? more study needed]." (1 Enoch 3; 10:16; 24; 25:4; 93:2-5; Ps 1:3; 92:13; Isa 44:4; 61:3; Jer 17:8; Ode 11; Ode 38:17-22 Ode 

Tuesday, 31 March 2020

Sunday, 29 March 2020

Sin is in the flesh


Sin is in the flesh

Sin is in the flesh, the flesh is as the cloths we wear; the vessel, the shell - kept alive by the spirit, soul cannot keep organic life alive like a sperm cannot produce the egg, sperm must find the egg, going through a tiny bit of darkness and only one enters in. The flesh is sinful in nature, because of soul and is this souls fault? No. Yet soul is captive within the flesh of man. Soul is the higher intelligence of man and when soul mingles with the instinctual spirit of life, ego is manifested from the flesh, and is ego is blame. No. This is where all the gods came from, the imaginations of the ego through the soul who's come from the light. Soul is drawn by ego to image its the spirit having a human experience, this is not so. Soul is the true child of the Father. Its time for soul to awaken within I hope everyone's ready for the Lord wants none to perish.

Saturday, 28 March 2020

hidden revelation Gospel of Mary





chapter 5

5) Peter said to Mary, Sister we know that the Savior loved you more than the rest of woman.
6) Tell us the words of the Savior which you remember which you know, but we do not, nor have we heard them.
7) Mary answered and said, What is hidden from you I will proclaim to you.

It seems from the words of Peter that Mary played a special role even before the resurrection and Peter now asks Mary for a hidden revelation

5  Peter said to Mary, "Sister, we know that the Savior loved you more than all other women. 

the statement that the Messiah loved Mary more than than the rest of woman seems to link it to the saying in the Gospel of Philip that he loved her more than all other disciple

The Gospel of Philip Wisdom and Mary of Magdala

Wisdom, who is called barren, is the mother of the angels.
The companion of the [savior] is Mary of Magdala. The [savior loved] her more than [all] the disciples, [and he] kissed her often on her [mouth].
The other [disciples] [64]…said to him, “Why do you love her more than all of us?”
The savior answered and said to them, “Why do I not love you like her? If a blind person and one who can see are both in darkness, they are the same. When the light comes, one who can see will see the light, and the blind person will stay in darkness.”


6 Tell us the words of the Savior that you remember, the things which you know that we don't because we haven't heard them."
7  Mary responded, "I will teach you about what is hidden from you." And she began to speak these words to them.

Mary now declares her willingness to impart this special teaching too 

Mary the Consoler the Gospel of Mary



Chapter 5

1) But they were grieved. They wept greatly, saying, How shall we go to the Gentiles and preach the gospel of the Kingdom of the Son of Man? If they did not spare Him, how will they spare us?
2) Then Mary stood up, greeted them all, and said to her brethren, Do not weep and do not grieve nor be irresolute, for His grace will be entirely with you and will protect you.
3) But rather, let us praise His greatness, for He has prepared us and made us into Men.
4) When Mary said this, she turned their hearts to the Good, and they began to discuss the words of the Savior.

The Apostles think that they will not be successful in preaching the message they will suffer the same fate as the messiah himself

1) But they were grieved. They wept greatly, saying, How shall we go to the Gentiles and preach the gospel of the Kingdom of the Son of Man? If they did not spare Him, how will they spare us?

Mary now assumes the main position she acts just as the Messiah did before her embracing the Apostles and encouraging them.

2) Then Mary stood up, greeted them all, and said to her brethren, Do not weep and do not grieve nor be irresolute, for His grace will be entirely with you and will protect you.
3) But rather, let us praise His greatness, for He has prepared us and made us into Men.

Then Mary stood up. She greeted them all, addressing her brothers and sisters, "Do not weep and be distressed nor let your hearts be irresolute. For his grace will be with you all and will shelter you. Rather we should praise his greatness, for he has prepared us and made us true Human beings."

for He has prepared us and made us into Men
for he has prepared us and made us true Human beings



Men like the English both Greek and Coptic words have a term "man" which can indicate either a male individual or humanity a a whole and a term "male" which can only refer  to masculine-gendered person. In the Gospel of Thomas  the "term" is male in the Gospel of Mary it is "man" since in the  the Gospel of Mary  both men and women  disciples are made "men" the intent is generic (human beings )

This should be understood in light of Jesus's words that For the Son of Man is within you. his saving work allows us to follow after him the way to the true human existence and to find within ourselves the son of man as our own new self 

Surah 3:49 and the Infancy Gospel of Thomas

Infancy Gospel of Thomas


2. This child Jesus, when five years old, was playing in the ford of a mountain stream; and He collected the flowing waters into pools, and made them clear immediately, and by a word alone He made them obey Him. And having made some soft clay, He fashioned out of it twelve sparrows. And it was the Sabbath when He did these things. And there were also many other children playing with Him. And a certain Jew, seeing what Jesus was doing, playing on the Sabbath, went off immediately, and said to his father Joseph: Behold, thy son is at the stream, and has taken clay, and made of it twelve birds, and has profaned the Sabbath. And Joseph, coming to the place and seeing, cried out to Him, saying: Wherefore doest thou on the Sabbath what it is not lawful to do? And Jesus clapped His hands, and cried out to the sparrows, and said to them: Off you go! And the sparrows flew, and went off crying. And the Jews seeing this were amazed, and went away and reported to their chief men what they had seen Jesus doing.

45. Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.
46. "He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous."
47. She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" He said: "Even so: Allah createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, 'Be,' and it is!
48. "And Allah will teach him the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel,
49. "And (appoint him) an apostle to the Children of Israel, (with this message): "'I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allah.s leave: And I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I quicken the dead, by Allah.s leave; and I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe;



45. Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.

386 Christ: Greek, Christos = anointed: kings and priests were anointed to symbolise consecration to their office. The Hebrew and Arabic form is Masih .

46. "He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous."

388 The ministry of Jesus lasted only about three years, from 30 to 33 years of his age, when in the eyes of his enemies he was crucified. But the Gospel of Luke ( 2:46 ) describes him as disputing with the doctors in the Temple at the age of 12, and even earlier, as a child, he was "strong in spirit, filled with wisdom" (Luke 2:40 ). Some apocryphal Gospels describe him as preaching from infancy.

47. She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" He said: "Even so: Allah createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, 'Be,' and it is!

389 She was addressed by angels, who gave her Allah's message. In reply she speaks as to Allah. In reply, apparently an angel again gives Allah's message.

48. "And Allah will teach him the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel,

49. "And (appoint him) an apostle to the Children of Israel, (with this message): "'I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allah.s leave: And I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I quicken the dead, by Allah.s leave; and I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe;

390 This miracle of the clay birds is found in some of the apocryphal Gospels; those of curing the blind and the lepers and raising the dead are in the canonical Gospels. The original Gospel (see 3:48 ) was not the various stories written afterwards by disciples, but the real Message taught direct by Jesus. 

391 I do not know whether this clause refers to a particular incident, or generally to a prophetic knowledge of what is not known to ordinary people.

Surah 3:44 and The Protoevangelium of James

Surah 3:44 and The Protoevangelium of James

The Protoevangelium of James

8. And her parents went down marvelling, and praising the Lord God, because the child had not turned back. And Mary was in the temple of the Lord as if she were a dove that dwelt there, and she received food from the hand of an angel. And when she was twelve years old there was held a council of the priests, saying: Behold, Mary has reached the age of twelve years in the temple of the Lord. What then shall we do with her, test perchance she defile the sanctuary of the Lord? And they said to the high priest: Thou standest by the altar of the Lord; go in, and pray concerning her; and whatever the Lord shall manifest unto thee, that also will we do. And the high priest went in, taking the robe with the twelve bells into the holy of holies; and he prayed concerning her. And behold an angel of the Lord stood by him, saying unto him: Zacharias, Zacharias, go out and assemble the widowers of the people, and let them bring each his rod; and to whomsoever the Lord shall show a sign, his wife shall she be. And the heralds went out through all the circuit of Judaea, and the trumpet of the Lord sounded, and all ran.

9. And Joseph, throwing away his axe, went out to meet them; and when they had assembled, they went away to the high priest, taking with them their rods. And he, taking the rods of all of them, entered into the temple, and prayed; and having ended his prayer, he took the rods and came out, and gave them to them: but there was no sign in them, and Joseph took his rod last; and, behold, a dove came out of the rod, and flew upon Joseph's head. And the priest said to Joseph, Thou hast been chosen by lot to take into thy keeping the virgin of the Lord. But Joseph refused, saying: I have children, and I am an old man, and she is a young girl. I am afraid lest I become a laughing-stock to the sons of Israel. And the priest said to Joseph: Fear the Lord thy God, and remember what the Lord did to Dathan, and Abiram, and Korah; how the earth opened, and they were swallowed up on account of their contradiction. And now fear, O Joseph, lest the same things happen in thy house. And Joseph was afraid, and took her into his keeping. And Joseph said to Mary: Behold, I have received thee from the temple of the Lord; and now I leave thee in my house, and go away to build my buildings, and I shall come to thee. The Lord will protect thee.

10. And there was a council of the priests, saying: Let us make a veil for the temple of the Lord. And the priest said: Call to me the undefiled virgins of the family of David. And the officers went away, and sought, and found seven virgins. And the priest remembered the child Mary, that she was of the family of David, and undefiled before God. And the officers went away and brought her. And they brought them into the temple of the Lord. And the priest said: Choose for me by lot who shall spin the gold, and the white, and the fine linen, and the silk, and the blue, and the scarlet, and the true purple. And the true purple and the scarlet fell to the lot of Mary, and she took them, and went away to her house. And at that time Zacharias was dumb, and Samuel was in his place until the time that Zacharias spake. And Mary took the scarlet, and span it.

Surah 3:44


42. Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah hath chosen thee and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all nations.
43. "O Mary! worship Thy Lord devoutly: Prostrate thyself, and bow down (in prayer) with those who bow down."
44. This is part of the tidings of the things unseen, which We reveal unto thee (O Messenger.) by inspiration: Thou wast not with them when they cast lots with arrows, as to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary: Nor wast thou with them when they disputed (the point).

384 Literally, reeds: aqlam.. For the Arab custom of casting lots with arrows, see 2:219, n. 241.

385 Christian apocryphal writings mention the contention between the priests as to the honour of taking charge of Mary, and how it was decided by means of rods and reeds in favour of Zakariya.